Friday, 10 February 2012
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floyd smart?? give me a break. why did he pass up on the de la hoya rematch? i always thought that was fishy and as it turns out he simply thought he would lose. bob arum is right! |
355X6 Bench
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I am not happy with either guy. Thats why I like Shane, that cat will fight a lion if the money is right. He dont give a fuck about polatics or anything he fights all comers. |
antonyp43
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Jmc what you forgettin here pal,is that pac agreed to blood 24 days b4 and straight after.You cannot take peds and escape capture with those testing dates.Impossible.So what floyd has done is yet again walked away from,or should i say run away from,yet another fight with a dangerous opponent.Why are you pbf fans so blind.The man ducks every decent fighter out there,now he free to go fight pauli mag,lol,or ricky hattons brother,bigger lol.The man a disgrace to his sport,pac not juicin,floyd just duckin as usual.Lets take a look at floyds reseme ere shall we?Mitchell,judha,hatton.Wheres the mosely,margarito,cotto,now pac?The guy a fraud and he takin some boxin fans for a ride. |
sikwitit78
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floyds a coward like abrum said thats why never fought margarito,cotto,mosley,clottey,pwill,berto, hell he wouldnt even fight collazo plain and simple he needs to grow a pair.. i dont think pacs on roid but for 40 mil ill fight him on roids didnt delahoya whoop vargas when vargas was on roid |
bolo
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antony043 u are incorrect. hgh and other drugs can not b tested for 48hrs after use. he could juice untill 4 days b4 the fight and stop. if u are willing to take test 24 days b4 fight why do u care when test is done. he let 40 mill go over a blood test. cant blame mayweather look at cotto after fighting two guys on roids. and if mayweather coulf barely make 154 how is pacman doing it in two months. mayweather actually only weighed 147 day of the delahoya fight |
Gun Ru Hammer
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Floyd should just drop the drug testing request and start roiding too. THh NEvada Boxing Commission obviously doesnt seem to mind with their archaic testing standards. |
stpap77
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No matter what tricks Floyd pulls there is something he cannot run from....the courtroom. Enjoy the trial pretty boy! I want to see you smiling when you hand over 10mil to Manny for defamation. And next time STAY in retirement  |
bolo
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and for the record mosley was juiced a lot of his career so he is no better. in same boat as pacman. he refused to fight mayweather twice. abrum refused to let mayweather fight cotto called talks off after one meeting and abrum gave a low ball offer 5 million less then what mayweather could make for any other fight during margarito negotiation knowing mayweather would not fight for 5 mill less |
sikwitit78
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ITS FUNNY MAYWEATHER CLAIMS BEST WW BUT HAS NOT FOUGHT ONE TOP WW AND NOW PAC MOVING UP TO BIGGER CHALLENGE WITH Y.FOREMAN AND WHAT DOES COWARD SAY IMA FIGHT WEAK ASS MALINAGGI WITH 5 KO'S IN HIS WHOLE CAREER AND IMA MAKE HIM MOVE UP IN WEIGHT SO HE CAN BE EVEN WEAKER ....WAY TO PROVE YOUR THE BEST LMAO |
sikwitit78
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AND DIDNT HATTON WHOOP MALINAGGI SO WHY WOULD FLOYD EVEN CONSIDER HIM ? CAUSE HE IS A COWARD HE WILL NEVER FACE A ELITE WELTER WEIGHT WHO WOULD BE A REAL CHALLENGE CLAIMS TO BE THE BEST I SAY EVEN ROY JONES IS BETTER THAN PUNK MARYWEATHER HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN A TRACK STAR HUSEIN BOLT AINT GOT NOTHING ON MARYWEATHER |
bolo
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sikwitit u sound stupid u doging mayweather for using malignaggi as a toon up fight someone who pacman was going to fight but u have no issue with pacman fighting yuri? who the hell is yuri. and who is he gona fight after that fight. he already said he wont fight mosley. mayweather fights winner of the mosley berto fight and they wont have no issue doing blood test. no real fighter is fighting pacman anymore unless they are in crazy money trouble. |
bolo
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i cant understand why no one is saying anything about pacman refusing to fight mosley. u refusing to fight mosley but u calling other people cowards. scared to take a blood test for 40 mill but other people are cowards. |
bolo
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and for the last time mosley refused to fight mayweather twice so please up shut up with the he ducked mosley talk. and i guess marquez costillo moralles and delahoya are all nobodys that mayweather fought |
sikwit
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really have the nerve to mention marquez please he had no biz at welterweight ...and for the record no mayweather didnt fight morales its corales get your facts right |
sikwit
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and yori is way more of a challenge at 154 than malinaggi at 147 pac entering yoris turf maryweather making pillow fist paulie move up real challenge lmao |
sikwit
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very simple who has had weaker oposition pac or mayweather i rest my case |
bolo
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yuri are you kidding me your an idiot for bringing that up again. since he haits goldenboy so much now why not fight delahoya at his comfortable wieght of 154. and please explain to me how he is making this weight when mayweather barely made the weight. and doing it in two months. and also let me know how you walk away from 40 mill. over a blood test. no one else seems to be able to . all the class a fighers are wondering the same thing. cotto, berto, mosley, even malignaggi and cintron. so maybe you have an answer. your boy is juiced up any idiot with some sort of brain can see that. lets see what class a fighers he fights in the next two years. |
bolo
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and your right he fought diego corrales and knocked his tail out. my point is he has fought big name fighers. and marquez had no buissness fighting in welterweight. pacman fought him in 2008 less then two years ago and he is all the way up to 154 and doing really well. i wonder why? thanks for proving my point. |
Jmc561
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Shane will fight all comers? Clottey and Williams might have something to say about that |
sikwit
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mary has cherry picked his way and is def the greatest ducker of all time what elite ww has he fought none and only one legitimate hall of famer marquez..delahoya is not castillo nor corales all b-class fighter pac will be held in way higher regard than maryweathr can ever wish to be heard hes gonna call out calderon to fight at 154 with 12oz gloves in a 24foot ring cause calderon is undefeated so guess hes the best of all time |
bolo
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you sound crazy. so pacman is gona be held in a higher regard for beating fighters mayweather already beat. if hatton, cotto and delahoya are no bodys and b class fighers why is pacman so great. and you have the nerve to call diego corales a b class fighter? that right there shows how much you know about boxing. diego B class fighter? wow. so who has pacman beat.since hatton and delahoya are no bodys and mayweather destroyed marquez a fighter that gave pacman all he could handle what makes pacman great. |
sikwit
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again why has he not fought cotto.clottey.berto.marg.mosley.even quintana or collazo for that fact forest when he was around or spinks or vargas or tito mayorga all fights were possible and marg offerd 8mil he refused and u can youtube when marg chumped him ..COWARD |
bolo
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and if pacman is so great why does he not want to fight mosley and has said he wont fight mosley. and wont fight mayweather and make 40 mill over a blood test. you still have not answered that one by the way. no one has. answer that. who walks away from 40 mill over a blood test especially when you got everything you asked for in the fight |
sikwit
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marquez at ww pac would kill and yes corales b class fighter only big wins are castillo weight drained and freitas none are that great shows how much you know |
bolo
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pacman got 50/50 split. ring size, glove size, got the if mayweather goes over weight 10 mill. per pound clause. and he wanted someone other then usada to do test. mayweather said ok. and he couldnt do a blood test? walked away from 40 mill over it. give me one reason why. does not add. up . give me viable reason. one reason. why are all the pacman fans ducking that question |
Gun Ru Hammer
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Did this dude just say Chico was a B class fighter? |
sikwit
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havent gave a answer to why he didnt fight any of the people i mentioned.....COWARD |
dipsta
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Corrales was a B class fighter?! so i take it opponents like popo freitas, temibly castillo, and cepillo casamayor are unworthy of the elite class themselves!? thats the stupidest fkn remark ive ever heard!! respect chico!! LONG LIVE CHICO!! im with paulie here! |
sikwit
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yeah b class fighter just cause he had fight of the century doesnt make him great hes just like gatti exciting but not great yall the same people who think maryweather the greatest just cause he is undefeated so i guess calzaghe.calderon.ricardo lopez are the greatest of all time as well please learn boxing history there are a good amount of undefeated fighters dont mean there the best ever ..i guess marciano greatest fighter to ever live by your logic lmao |
listo1one
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i alwasy knew PGF loves his (O) more than money.... though i still think Pac should take the test. they are paying alot to do so. |
sikwit
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and corales loss the trilogy fights ..popo had chance but quit on stool and are any of these guys first ballot hall of fsmers NO! |
bolo
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''sikwit'' i gave you answer why he didnt fight those people. mosley refused to fight him twice. 2. abrum shut down talks for cotto fight after first day. and abrum has said it on many occasions he does not want mayweather fighting his fighters. 3. he offered mayweather 5 million less then what everyone else was offering mayweather during marqerito negotiations. 5 mill less? its called low balling knowing mayweather would take b.s. amount. 4. pacman fight. pacman got everything he requested. all mayweather asked for was a blood test. random so he couldnt use things such as hgh witch is not detectable after 48 hours. pacman said no. walked away from 40 mill over a blood test. and you still havnt given reason why someone would walk away from 40 mill over blood test. |
bolo
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sikwit i hope you see the responses over your chico corales is a b class fighter remark show how little you know. see how shocked they are that someone would make such a retarded statement. only someone who knows nothing about boxing would make such a stupid statement. kind of like i am scared of niddles but have tatoos all over my body. |
bolo
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and sikwit who did pacman beat that makes him so great. dont even say cotto. he got his tail handed to him by margarito and lost the clotty fight. but it was given to him. you already said delahoya is a no body. so what hall of famers did he beat that makes him so great. and i still cant believe you had nerve to say yuri is a class a figher. i guess he could beat mayweather and chio to. |
bolo
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and if delahoya is a no body why was the mayweather vs delahoya fight greatest selling fight of all time. all the haters talked for weeks about how delahoya would kill mayweather then after fight talk changes to how bad delahoya is. same thing with hatton. he will preasure mayweather and destroy him. after fight. hatton is no good. but pacman beats fighters that all just came off big losses and he is the greatest. give me a break. |
bjordan
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Pac is pussy floyd would smack dat ass he scared. He is juiced definitely cause dere is kno why u turn down 40 mill over a little blood wtf sounds real fishy, Floyd made all concessions too make da fight happen. Chi chi hernandez,prime corrales, prime hatton, not weight drained dela hoya, prime zab. Shane ducked Floyd don't forget that pussies floyd mayweather p4p best |
sikwit
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um pac beat morales.barrera.marquez all three hall of famers at there weight and only mainstream people think corales was great please did nothing special other than one win over castillo he was flat footed straight forward fighter horrible defence nothing special other than heart what mayweather lacks ..chico loss to castillo twice by ko and loss to casamayor twice was prob not ahead on score cards when popo quit and his chin was suspect why he never fought .morales .barrera.pac or marquez please do your research youngboy your a mainstream fan caught in the hype |
bolo
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sikwit and all the pacman lovers. please one reason why you turn down 40 mill over blood test. still waiting for a viable answer. and you cant say mayweather bossing him around because mayweather made all the concession. no one seems to want to answer that one. |
sikwit
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and never said yori was A class get marys nuts out ya ears said a better challenge than paulie ..yori is what like 5"11 will enter at about 170lbs much more difficult than pillow fist paulie at 147 cant crack a egg lmao |
bolo
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chico lost to costillo once by tko. they didnt fight the third time because costillo came to fight overweight for secound streight time. chico won by tko first time they fought. marquez got his tail handed to him by mayweather so what you talking about. got totaly outboxed and outclassed had nothing to do with weight. but again soon as mayweather beats the guy, he is a no body. but pacman fights him and wins he is the greatest ever. you make no sense. and why wont your boy fight mosley. abrum sais they want no part of him. whats up with that. why not fight paul williams at 154 you want to talk about ducking so answer those. and stop bringing up mosley. he wanted no part of mayweather refused fight twice. |
d_madz
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hey bolo.. suck my ass.. |
sikwit
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funny mosley called him out in front of everybody and come on now marquez at ww is slow sluggish and no power weight is a big factor marquez best weight was 130 even at 135 not as good i guess calderon should gain 40 lbs and fight maryweather and that will be ok according to your logic and since weight aint a issue why dont mary fight b-hop or klicthko cause weight does not count |
sikwit
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and the two times mosley ref first mary was a no money fight and at short notice and second was right after vargas were he got a tooth knocked lose and was not giving him time to get down to ww properly again short notice ..and still does not excuse not fighting..pwill.clottey.berto.forrest rip.vargas.tito.mayorga.wright all were very very possible if he had some balls but i guess they were in your mouth lmao |
bolo
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when mosley called him out it was a no might fight. are you kidding me. mosley was on top of his game and the one fighter everyone saw as someone that could beat him was mayweather so what the hell are you talking about? compared to the people he was fighting. and with all the fighters you just mentioned. why is pacman not fighting them. why is he fighting yuri. mayoraga, clotty? are you for real. you need help. |
bolo
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forest was a no body. only person big he beat was mosley. tailer made for mosley. the one fighter that just had his number. delahoya beat mayorga. mayweather fought delahoya in his real weight class 154. clotty. are you for real. you need help |
bolo
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in 2007 mosley mayweather was a no money fight. you got to be crazy. mosley only wants to fight him now for one big pay day b4 retirement. and he is actually gona get that fight as long as he can get past berto. why did pacman not fight him. margarito destroyed cotto. mosley destroyed margarito. pacman should have fought mosley. but no one talks about that. you got excuses for that to |
bolo
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dmatz i dont role that way. go to the its raining man club. you should find what your looking for there. |
sikwit
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all mary fights is blown up little guys but hes the best yeah right even calzaghe faced higher ranked fighters why did mary retire when he did fear of marg.cotto.clottey.berto then he comes back to face little marquez out his weight division and didnt make the weight please then said i fought him cause he called me out marg called him out for 8mil but he chose to fight lame ass baldomir for less money ..huh why was that oh yeah coward lmao |
k24eg22
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i dont understand some people... how can u sit here n trash floyd but will u risk ur health in the ring with some one who can possibly on roids??? why not take a blood test and enter the ring knowing ur opponent has no advantages over u??? its common sense here.. alot of u guys would do the same as floyd.. why risk ur health??? 40million is alot of money but when u have money already and u have children its really nothing compaired to ur health... am not a pacman hater cuz i believe he will give floyd a hell of a fight.. but at the end of the day floyd n his family are looking out for him... point blank.. i will not enter those ropes for the entertainment of u jokers to end up like a vegtible in the end.. nope not worth it.. |
bolo
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cotto fought two guys on roids. margarito and pacman. we all know the condition he is in.carear looks like it is over. and who knows about his future health. again please one reason you would walk away from 40 mill over a blood test. no one seems to be able to answer that one. |
bolo
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sikwit. would you walk away from 40 mill over a blood test. especially when you got everything you asked for in the fight. why you not answering that one. |
bolo
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mayweather barely made 154 he weighed 147 fight night with delahoya. he lost 7 pounds overnight. pacman should not be able to make that weight. especially in two months. it took mayweather 10 years to get to that weight and be comfortable. pacman is doing it in less then two years. makes no sence. it is impossible for that man to gain that weight in that short period of time and still be strong has nothing to do with pride or mocheesmo or whatever physically impossible without drugs. no one has been able to do it for a reason. next thing he will fight pavlic at 160 |
layzie guy
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tell em paulie! i agree 100% |
doctorSpoc
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antonyp43.. I like how you guys are just making stuff up now.. HGH is undetectable in urine and after 2 days.. pacquiao could be using it all now.. stop 3 days before the test 24 days before the fight.. start again and use it right up to 3 days before the fight and not get caught.. why do you NO KNOWLEDGE HAVING HALF WITS KEEP COMING UP WITH THIS BULLSHIT.... F!CK IS THAT EVER F!CKING ANNOYING!!! |
doctorSpoc
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to clarify HGH is not detectable after 2 days in even in blood.. if you FOOLS DON'T HAVE A FUCKING CLUE WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT, SHUT THE FUCK UP!! |
Tricio
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" it took mayweather 10 years to get to that weight and be comfortable. pacman is doing it in less then two years. makes no sence." Pac was 106 at 16yo, he's in his 30's now. Im 5'7 and 160. So whats dosent make sense about his weight? His natural weight is around 145 and be comfortable. it means his power is at welterweight. People seem to forget people from third world countries like the philippines dont eat right due to extreme poverty. you introduce that skinny filipino to correct eating habits and healthier food and he will hit his natural weight. bring a fragile lil kid from somalia to america, and watch him turn into a Manute Bol or Dikembe Mutombo. |
Tricio
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anyways bottom line, pacs roid use is debateable. whats not debateable is mayweathers track record of ducking real fighters or only fighting fights he has a one sided advantage too. and Malignaggi, serioulsy STFU. your trash talking is more exciting than your fights. you limp wristed guido. Mayweather vs Malignaggi, such a waste of ppv space. do not want. |
doctorSpoc
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i think i'll get my info from PhD's that get paid to catch dope cheat.. rather than the fools on this board or arum or paca-roid.. Travis Tygart, the CEO of USADA, told Kevin Iole of Yahoo! Sports that both urine and blood tests are needed to determine if a fighter is clean. "There is no urine-based tested for human-growth hormone," Tygart said. "It doesn’t show up in the urine. It’s only a blood-based test. That’s true of a number of prohibited substances, particularly those that would enhance and aid a boxer.” Tygert also added the schedule Arum is proposing won't work, because a fighter would have the advantage of knowing when he'd be tested. “That kind of window is totally unacceptable,” Tygart said. “It would provide a huge loophole for a cheater to step through and get away with cheating.” Dr. Gary Wadler, an internal medicine physician and chairman of the World Anti-Doping Agency’s Prohibited List and Methods sub-committee, supported Tygar's position. “The fundamental principle is that the time and place of testing is in the domain of the governing body, not of the athlete,” Wadler told Yahoo! Sports. “It would lose all its validity if the athlete could pick and choose when he is going to be tested and for what he’s going to be tested for and how he’s going to be tested. They’re sophisticated enough now that if someone wanted to, you could play the calendar to your advantage." |
doctorSpoc
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even listen to the former CEO of BALCO.. the guy that developed the undetectable designer steroid that Marion Jones, Mosely, Kelly White etc use.. he know's a little bit about physiology and beating the system... And to Arum's notion that Pacquaio will feel "weakened" by getting his blood drawn close to the fight? Victor Conte, the founder of Bay-Area Laboratory Cooperative (BALCO), said the tests would have no physical effect on either fighter. “That amount would be less than one-half of one percent (of the total blood in the body),” Conte told Yahoo! Sports. “It’s not going to have any effect, the drawing of blood. Could it have some mental effect? That’s the only down side of that. It’s certainly not going to have any physical effect, giving blood before a fight.” |
Jandro83
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"and yori is way more of a challenge at 154 than malinaggi at 147 pac entering yoris turf maryweather making pillow fist paulie move up real challenge lmao" WTF?? Pacman is willing to go up to 154 and fight Yuri, yet he was bitching and whinning for a catchweight against Cotto? that just shows u that Yuri is NOT a threat. |
JoecooL
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Bolo: shut your mouth! You said who is Yuri Forman? Know ur boxing! And you said Pacquiao ducked Mosley? He fought the one who beat Mosley! Cotto. And Mayweather never fought Morales. Again learn your boxing.  |
bolo
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joecool shut the hell up cotto had just had his brains beat. the man who beat cottos brains in was beaten by mosley. so to match up with cotto made no sence. stop rydin that doods balls. mayweather said he would be ok with blood testin stoped 14 days prior to match. pacman said no. how can you defend that. 14 days if more then adiquet. say its not with a reason. you that blind. 14 days too short. please. wake up. |
sikwit
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lol pac scared of needles and mayweather scarded of fighters his own size ..pac actions are a little suspect but mayweather being a coward has been proven in his career cherry picker and little guy bully name a elite ww hes fought ... you cant closes thing was slow ass lame baldomir he could have fought..margo.cotto.berto.clottey.collazo.quintana.forrest when he was alive.vargas.winky.tito.mayorga.cory and the list goes on COWARD PLAIN AND SIMPLE !!!!!!! |
Jandro83
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"lol pac scared of needles and mayweather scarded of fighters his own size ..pac actions are a little suspect but mayweather being a coward has been proven in his career cherry picker and little guy bully name a elite ww hes fought ... you cant closes thing was slow ass lame baldomir he could have fought..margo.cotto.berto.clottey.collazo.quintana.forrest when he was alive.vargas.winky.tito.mayorga.cory and the list goes on COWARD PLAIN AND SIMPLE !!!!!!!" Well he fought DLH who was bigger than him and beat him, he said #s times he was willing to go up to 160 and fight Winky, but dont know how that ended, and fight Margo? why? that would be the most boring one sided fight ever, Margo wouldnt be able to land a single punch and just get potshotted and comboed all night long lol. |
sikwit
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oh you mean boring like his baldomir fight and about 80% of the rest of his fights ...lol |
doctorSpoc
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seriously man, after we saw what easy work mosley made of margarito.. do you honestly think mayweather wouldn't have an even easier time with his defensive style.. margarito probably landed 3 or 4 solid punches on mosley during the whole fight.. he likely wouldn't land even one against mayweather.. boring.. was mayweather vs. hatton boring? was mayweather vs zab judah boring? mayweather vs gatti.. what about mayweather's 5 knock down destruction of corrales(rip), i guess that was boring too? you guys are just repeating things that you've heard rather using your own brains.. mayweather fights that are boring, are boring because his competition doesn't offer an competition.. and mayweather is a boxer who only tend to sit down on his punches when pushed hard. |
SIKWIT
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HIS CHALLENGERS WERE EXCITING NOT HIM EVEN LEEDEMAN CALLED HIM BORING ON HIS SHOW AND MARY BEGAN TO CRY LOL ...GATTI NOTHING SPECIAL CORALES NOTHING SPECIAL HATTON CHIN UP PLEASE AND EVEN CHIN UP HATTON GAVE HIM COMPETITION AND HATTON SUCKS AT 147 COLLAZO PROVED THAT GATTI PLEASE HE GOT KOD BY GOMEZ AND BALDOMIR |
SIKWIT
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CALDERON IS 30 SOMETHING WITH NO LOSSES I GUESS HES THE BEST FIGHTER IN THE WORLD TOO ..RIGHT ACCORDING TO YALL LOGIC AND I GUESS CALZAGHE ONE OF THE GREATEST EVER F##K OUTTA HERE |
SIKWIT
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AND .0. DONT MAKE YOU GREAT BEATING GREAT FIGHTERS DOES |
DoodZ
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I just saw Paulie get KNOCKED DA FUCK OUT on an episode of Jersey Shore! Or was that Snooky... man its hard to tell sometimes, both are loud mouth guido cunts. |
ImmortalFist
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lmao, DoodZ i loled at your comment. But honestly Mayweather/ Malignaggi!? this fight is going to be boring, who the hell would watch this? Dont waste your money people! |
sikwit
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ghetto trash all mouth mayweather wanna call out pillow fisted metro sexual paulie what they fight for who wears the bigger panties lol |
Tricio
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Floyd does not fight unless he has an obvious advantage, he has not fought an opponent he did not hand pick himself, if the match up is even or slighty in favor of the opposition, floyd will not fight. And the ODH fight does not count, that fight was an obvious ploy fixed by ODH and Golden Boy Promotions. Oscar hands floyd the win as long as Oscar dosent get beaten badly ( thus the split decision), and in return Oscar gets a huge payout, while floyd gets to claim he fights quality fighters. Why do you think after, they did not agree to Dela Hoya/ Mayweather 2 despite so much money it could generate? Because ODH and FMJ could not agree on who will throw the fight, Oscar will not lose twice to Floyd and floyd did not want to tarnish his fake 'perfect' record. Mayweather is a hack and a cheat and will never be a boxing great until he fights real fighters/real fights. |
ImmortalFist
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i totally agree, Dela Hoya vs Mayweather was staged. If not they should prove it by doing Dela Hoya vs Mayweather 2. But theywont coz theyre best pals. The family that cheats together, stays together. Thats Golden Boy Promotions for ya!  |
sikwit
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right on the money ..now pac gonna fight a top WW who is big tuff and great chin lets see who floyd picks prob brian viloria or vic darchinyan lol |
DoodZ
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Come march 13, im gonna get my pubes braided and corn-rowed in honor of my boy Paulie 'pussy lips' Malignaggi! Go get em tiger! |
kenniev
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Stop all your non-sense, clowns!!! Pacquiao was willing to take the blood test right after the fight!!! Stop insinuating that he never wanted a blood test.. May I ask this doctor pretender, do you think there will be no traces of illegal substance right after the fight if he really were into "steroids"? If he comes out dirty, what would you think was at stake? His reputation and dignity would be stripped off his soul, you fools! And all his boxing records that you can't believe he has achieved. It's not about money, anyway he could always earn that much in future fights. Reputation is priceless, even $40M couldn't buy. Fraud Gayweather is the no.1 p4p coward.. Plain and simple, chicken. Just like your Fraud Pretender's sweet talking BIG mouth, shut up. |
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