Wednesday, 08 September 2010
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I predict that by the 7th round ,you'll see all the Johnny-come-lately Manny Paquiao fans heading for the exits,because the Manny Paquiao hype-machine will be dismantled. If Manny Paquiao can't beat Juan Manuel Marquez then he surely as hell won't beat a Floyd Mayweather jr.,If Manny Paquiao can't beat an Eric Morales then he surely as hell won't beat beat a Floyd Mayweather jr. I can't see Manny Paquiao changing his style all of a sudden so where as he can crack un-crackable defense,he's been the same Manny Paquiao since he was a flyweight(for all of you who just became Paquiao fan's)Mayweather by unanimous decision. |
355X6 Bench
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Look I think Floyd will win the fight and if he thinks its gonna be a walk in the park then he is dreamin, there is no way this fight is gonna be that easy. |
socalboxer
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manny pacquiao is going to win this fight. i'm convinced of it. remember how zab judah won the first 4 rounds against floyd? it will be the same thing except pacquiao wont fall apart after 4 rounds. i've seen pacquiao fight, and he aint no zab judah |
doctorSpoc
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Bench - i agree with you that it is not going to be easy.. just like the JMM fight wasn't easy. PBF just made it LOOK easy.. JMM is a HOF fighter and forget about weight for a minute, just on a skill level, PBF made him look like a club fighter. Manny had his hands full with Marquez.. Marqquez actually won more rounds in that fight than manny did (couldn't come back from 3 knock downs though). i think his defeat of Manny Pacquiao will look easy as well, even though it will take extreme skill and concentration to make it look easy. mayweather pitching a complete shutout and 5 knock down TKO of Diego Corrales (RIP) looked easy, but there is nothing easy about it.. it took great skill to do that. i totally think the KO or TKO is possible... mayweather knocks out guys that really pressure him and force him to fight and manny is that kind of fighter.. think about Corrales, think about hatton, zab judah.. but pbf doesn't even need to knock pacquiao out to win.. morales didn't knock him out and he beat manny, marquez didn't knock him out and he won.. as i see it manny's only chance at winning is a lucky shot.. but mayweather is so good defensively he's never even been down in a fight.. at least by an oppoonents hand.. the only time he's been down is when he took a knee after hitting his opponent (can't remember the name) injuring his hand and he took the knee and still won the fight one handed... but he's since has surgery and has full use of the hand as you saw with those right hand leads that spun hatton's head around like a top.. given manny's style.. he's primed for a mayweather knockout... and mayweather is REALLY motivated for it too... but even if it doesn't come and i don't think mayweather will force it, i think there will be a lot of shocked faces when people see just how easy mayweather makes it "LOOK".. i agree with others, manny has become a two handed fighter, but other than that he still has all the flaws he had before. just look at manny's face in the post fight interviews after the cotto fight.. he just gets hit way too much, defense still sucks.. that's ok when you're able to land heavy blowson your opponents and weaken them, but when you can't, you're in deep, deep trouble.. look at Mosely v Margaritio.. a granite chin can only get you so far.. land enough punches and you will go down... have you ever even seen anyone land a combination on mayweather? have you ever seen his face look like manny's did after his fight with cotto? and manny won that fight! the manny show is about to end and it's not going to be pretty.. the 3rd knock out of manny pacquiao is a very real possibility given his style and mayweather's motivation... |
doctorSpoc
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socalboxer - what the hell are you talking about?? pacquiao is MUCH slower.. zab is faster even than mayweather.. he showed that in that fight, pacquiao is not anywhere as good a counter puncher than zab.. but manny also doesn't have a glass chin like zab either.. on what planet do you have to live on.. and how blind and un-knowledgable about boxing do you have to be to think that pacquiao, who is not a boxer anything like zab judah will be able to recreate what zab judah did against floyd? Zab Judah has about as much in common with Manny Pacquiao as Mayweather does to Ricky Hatton.. i.e. nothing! totally different styles and skills.. wow, that was a bad post! |
Jandro83
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Zab faster than Pacman? man u are crazyyyyyyyyyyy, Zab was faster than PBF thats true, but in terms of speed, Cotto dealt with Judah and Mosley pretty well, but as for Pacman, well u know what happened, sorry man but Manny is way faster than PBF, as for the KO no way its gonna happen, if Cotto couldnt do it, PBF wont do it, maybe Mosley can pull it off, but no one else at 147, and as for PBF predcitions, every time he predicts his own KOs he doesnt do shit. |
socalboxer
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Are you actually saying Judah is better than Pacquiao? LOL sorry bro but u are smoking something i'm not ready for. mayweather has never fought anyone like manny, and manny may not have fought anyone like mayweather. judah, and corley, are probably the closes comparables to manny that floyd has fought. and they each tagged mayweather with straight lefts. also mayweather was KNOCKED DOWN by judah using a right hook even though it wasn't ruled a knock down. mannys right hook is 10 times better. see the video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=din0rds-EfI |
bolo
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in zab judahs prime he was better then pacman. and he didnt even have a great trainer. and remeber, in that weightclass, no one had zab judahs power, no one. thats the only reason he gave mayweather problems. in his prime he probably could have beat mayweather. that knockout he suffered just took a lot out of him and all the out of the ring stuff. but in his prime zab was no joke. no one had the power he had. pacmans has had a great year, but he still leaves himself wide open. dont have to believe what people are saying, go look at the cotto fight. cotto just could not take advantage. he actually was doing good when he was trying to emulate mayweather. and hatton actually was winning round against pacman when he was imulating mayweather, but he could not keep it up. resulted back to his old ways. cant kick a 20 year habit that easy. march 13th. pacman faces the real thing. say what you want. you can not leave yourself open and think you are gona beat mayweather. he will pick you apart. and he is not going to get to mayweather. that man trains like he has a disease. no one in the history of this sport has trained the way mayweather does. pacman gona get knocked out. |
Jandro83
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Dude Cotto's best weapon was a CONSISTENT hard and stiff jab, something PBF does NOT have, also Marquez and Cotto got to hit Pacman cause of COMBINATION VOLUME PUNCHING again something PBF does NOT do, u just can't beat Manny with pot shots people. |
doctorSpoc
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Jandro83 - maybe you better look at the Marquez fight again.. i saw mayweather working behind a jab for half of that fight... then when marquez was sufficiently worn down.. he went to right hand leads... mayweather simply does what he needs to given the fighter in front of him. |
Homer
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Just when Tiger Woods thought it couldn't get any worse, he now has the support of Floyd and the Family Mayweather. That should turn things around. |
doctorSpoc
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socalboxer - what the f!ck are you talking about.. Judah is a completely orthodox, slick, fast counter puncher.. i.e. a "boxer"... manny pacquiao is a "fighter".. aggression, unorthodox, power punches thrown from anywhere etc... they have totally and completely different styles i didn't even comment about the fact that one is better than the other.. just that they are completely different in style. Manny Pacquiao is not in million years going to be able to fight mayweather the same way judah did, he just doesn't have the same skills or style.. i'm not saying that what he has isn't effective, just that it's completely different to judah and yet you say pacquiao is going to do what judah did.. he's not capable if fighting that way... you don't seem to even recognize as basic a fact as they have totally different styles so i'm not going to waste my time with you... educate yourself! |
layzie guy
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ive come to the conclusion that even if manny gets KO'd his fans will still think he won. i give up arguing with those people |
NDESTRUKT
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JUST WAIT ON WHAT WILL HAPPEN ON THE FIGHT. NO ONE HERE IS A FORTUNE TELLER!!! WIN OR LOSE FOR YOUR FIGHTER IS STILL BOXINGS LEGEND. |
Swodogg
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Great Video SoCal, I forgot all about that. Zab Judah Popped Mayweather with that right hand SENDING MAYWEATHER DOWN. The replay clearly shows Mayweather using his hand to try to stay up. So Floyd HAS been Knocked down before by a speedy southpaw...hmmmmmmm As far as the comments that "Zab Judah in his prime is better than Pacquiao?" You gotta kick back homie. Zabby has no chinny, and crumbles into a heap when in big fights. He ain't no Pacquiao. |
socalboxer
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listen here Zulu oops i mean "doctorspoc" LOL you are right, judah and pacquiao are two completely different fighters - judah is garbage and pacquiao is not. i found another video of your boy in his "prime" its one of my favorites lol : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2o7A3rMN6Co |
355X6 Bench
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Floyd will win and get ruffed up like never before. |
doctorSpoc
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socalboxer - man your stupid.. I said in MY frig'n post he had a "glass chin".. so do you have an original point to make??? thanks for confirming that I know what I'm talking about.. what a dumb ass! |
bolo
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whats have you seen that makes you to believe zab has a glass chin. it was not one punch that put zab down when he fought cotto. it was not one punch that put him down of any of his fights. except that one fight. and it was a clean shot that put him down. and if he had just stayed down for a few secounds and gathered himself instead of trying to get up right away. he would have been fine. a few secounds after fight called off he was alert. anyone can get cought. your body pacman has been on that canves a lot of times. a lot more then zab. marquez and been down. costillo, margarito. you cant take one momment in time and say the man has a glass jaw. he stays down a few secounds he would have won that fight. it was probably just because it was the first time he was in that position after dominating that devision for who knows how long. pacman is killing now but in his prime zab was a better fighter, he just cant do it anymore. somefighers are done in there 20's some in early 30's some last to 40's like hopkins. pacman can not do what zab did. zab had power like no other in that weight class. |
alex santillan
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I think you guys are barking at the wrong tree... everyone of you is quite right, but... when all of us thought the negotiations will be difficult, how did it happen so easy? Simple - the old wise owl Arum offered both fighters a deal they cant refuse. Its going to be a draw with both fighters going home with at least $40 million, Floyd gets to preserve his pretty face and his big ego, Packy preserves his crown and his diamond belt, then wins a seat in congress and gets all the pretty starlets in the Philippines and retains his p4p title. Thats why the fight will be in Vegas - nothing is impossible in Vegas! And we suckers will be sucked dry... |
bolo
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pacmans not getting 40 million dollers. 27% of his earnings goes to abrum. his promoter. and due to his contractual agreements with abrum he wont get as much as mayweather when it comes to ppv % and at the gate % mayweather on the other hand gets 100% of his money for the fight. 100% of his % of ppv and 100% of his cut for his cut of at door take. scheafer is only being contracted for negotiation of the fight. one flat little fee. as was with the marquez fight. thats why mayweather gets payed so much. thats why he made more in the marquez fight than pacman and hatton made combined for there fight. hait him or love him you cant deny he is a good buissness man. take in from this fight, marquez fight and mosley fight in about 7 to 10 months could be another 100 million adding up all three fights. |
frontANDcenter
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at first i was kind of laid back when it comes to the fight and all the hype that comes with it. i am a pacquiao fan. you can say all the stuffs that you want to say, specially you bolo, after you are done sucking on floyd's d*ck but in the end, manny is going to give floyd mayweather jr. a whooping surely he'll never forget. manny will win. manny will knock him out to shut him up for good. i just hope manny will buy his time more before zeroing in that vicious left hook of his. i want to savor that moment. |
doctorSpoc
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oh man.. you guys are really stretching it now.. that is SO frig'n WEAK! zab got him sure, but lets be real, mayweather is off balance at the time and baaaaaarely scrapes the canvas.. wasn't even buzzed, just off balance and barely touches his glove, if he even did... WEAK!! vs. pacquiao who has been put to sleep twice, out cold!... LOL.. vs pacquiao who won his last fight, but face looked like a swollen, bloody, cut up mess, with a broken ear drum.. you guys are too funny.. have you even seen mayweather look like that after a fight? this really easy guys, if morales can beat pacquiao by being a little technical, if marquez can be knocked down 3 times and get a draw against him and get a split decision getting knocked down once by being technical.. mayweather who is more of a technician that either of those guys or anyone pacquiao has fought, is bigger, faster, smarter, better defense wise etc,etc better in every way than either of those guys.. pbf will beat pacquiao handily.. and he will make it will look easy... it won't be but it's look that way.. and imo the KO or TKO is a very real possibility.. again, look at mosely v margarito, look at cory spinks v Mayorga (1st one to crack that nut).. this fight will look kind of like those fights.. bolo - maybe you are right.. maybe it's just perception.. i guess if zab judah has a glass chin then what does Marquez have.. or even Cotto? how many times has they been down and/or severely wobbled? Marquez has been down so many times you'd have to use hands and feet AND take pants off to count that high.. lol. but you do have to admit that he's had a few moments of inattention/loss of concentration in big fights.. and guys like marquez get off the canvas and win their fight but zab just doesn't seem to have the ability to recover like that. but he is definitely a brilliant boxer.. his dismantling of cory spinks was just amazing.. these jokers are funny.. they can't separate a lighting fast, technical boxer for a unorthodox, scrapper with fast hands and some pop.. no frig'n clue! anyone that thinks that Manny Pacquiao and Jab Judah will approach a fight with pbf in the same way or could, even if they wanted to knows NOTHING about boxing.. two totally different styles and skill sets.. |
doctorSpoc
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what you guys don't seem to be understanding is that pacquiao has been purposely kept away for technical boxers.. just slow guys and/or with shitty defense. his opposition has been totally cherry picked for his style and that's why he's looked good.. the only one he made the mistake of fighting was marquez.. and they must have never figured that a hot head like morales would fight a technical fight like he did the first time.. he got too confident and they suckered him into a brawl the second time and his granite chin finally cracked.. but mayweather is not going to get into a brawl with pacquiao.. he's going to box the sh!t out of him.. anyway, i'm done i'll be back here on march 14th to gloat.. lol.. this is going to be SO funny.. |
bolo
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i agree doctorspoc most of the guys making slurs and other non boxing comments are making it preaty clear they know nothing about boxing. all ive heard anyone say is that pacman will be able to throw many punches and preasure mayweather. but thats what they said about hatton and marquez. if marquez cant do it , if no one has been able to do it i dont know how they figure pacman will be able to do it. not to mention the guy has no defence at all. no defence and your not gona be able to get to mayweather? people for what ever reason just brush this asaid. like with margarito and mosley. margarito fought great against cotto, but he was getting hit all night. but all anyone payed attention to was cotto getting hit and loosing the fight. mosley hits a lot harder then cotto and we all know what happened to margarito. just because someones style works against one fighter it doesnt mean it will work against another. if you know anything about boxing. you know pacmans style is taylor made for mayweather. hes gona get killed. its just reality. |
bolo
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its not about kissing anyones tail. its about knowing the fight game. pacman will not be able to push action against mayweather. and he will get tko'ed. cant wait for this fight. |
Gun Ru Hammer
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You guys are getting hype over Floyd getting hit and almost getting a knock down scored on him. Thats kind of funny is it. Its like when your watching him fight, theres always that dumbass who gets up and starts hollering that Mayweather just got hit. Its boxing dummy, your supposed to get hit. When it takes someone 4 rounds to get a clean hit in, your not supposed to go buck wild. Thats seriously the level Floyd is on, people cheer every time he gets hit (which isnt often) |
bolo
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its funny how all the pacman fans are talking about zab quote dropping mayweather and somehow this means pacman will be able to get to mayweather and destroy him. so what does the fact pacman has been on the ground multiple times mean. |
alex santillan
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You are all so absolutely right when discussing the business side of this fight. Any moron can see that everybody's going to be happy if the fight ends in a draw - consider this: for both fighters nothing will be lost - the titles, crown, belt, ego and pride, with no damage except probably for some bruises,.... and they will go home with millions in their pockets. Its us suckers - especially the "experts" - who will be bled dry if we bet on either fighter. I'm now inclined to bet on a "draw".... |
Mickdaquick
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This is hilarious. I can't wait until March 13th. You Mayweather people are gonna be blown out of the water. Floyd has never faced a fighter like Manny. There is NOONE even close to as fast as Pacquiao, hands down. Someone up there talking about Zab Judah?? What a joke. And just so everyone knows, Pacquiao BEAT Marquez the 2nd time and the first fight was a draw. Sure, Floyd made it look easier. Bu they both fought Delahoya and Hatton and won, tell me who made those wins look easier. On top of that Floyd is boring, he doesn't have knockout power, he never has. Floyd won't be able to handle the storm of Pacquiao's combinations and flurries. I guarantee that Pacquiao wins this fight. And someone was talking about all these "Johnny come lately" Pacquiao fans, I've been watching Pacquiao since he was an undercard on the Tyson/Lewis fight back in 2002. Anyone being a big fan of Mayweather baffles me. He never takes the fight to his opponent, and he's not even a tenth of the warrior and brawler and mauler like Pacquiao is. Pacquiao is the best fighter of our time, and he's gonna prove it on March 13th. |
hork
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Mayweather made Marquez looked easy cause Marq was overweight, ALOT slower AND weaker than when Manny fought him. Manny fought him at his physical best. |
Gun Ru Hammer
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"There is NOONE even close to as fast as Pacquiao, hands down" You think Manny is faster then Floyd?  |
bolo
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mikdaquick made beating marquez a little easier? he made marquez look like he never fought a day in his life. marquez was over weight? pacman is fighing at the same weight marquez fought and he looks fast to me. marquez looked fast as usual. when mayweather stood there and let him hit him. marquez just got school real bad. and obviously you know nothing about boxing to make such a stuid comment as pacman being greatest fighter of our time. what you smoking. |
bolo
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the best of our time because he beat weight drained delahoya, hatton and cotto? this is his first fight this year against someone who hadnt just come off a big loss. someone on the upswing. abrum didnt want this fight to happen for a reason. anyone who calls pacman greatest of our era needs there head examined. |
AntWilkez
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Pacquiao fans are idiots they have no clue! |
BOXING EINSTEIN
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PACQUAIO IS GOOD BUT MAYWEATHER IS GREAT THATS THE DIFFERENCE. I WANNA SEE WHAT BOB ARUM HAS TO SAY AFTER THE FIGHT. MAYWEATHER WILL NEVER GET FULL CREDIT WHOEVER HE FIGHTS. |
alex santillan
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its the Pac haters who are the idiots. They all cite the weight drained DLH, Hatton and Cotto. Why did they agree to fight the small Asian guy anyway? Because they all thought the tiny Filipino was easy picking. Why did they not pick guys their own size? Because they are idiots... the same with Gayweather - he wont fight guys his size thinking the same way.. and he will end up the most idiot of them all - and that includes his hare-brained father! |
pac-que
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bolo/doctorspoc you two guys are have big bluffing mouth what a man? are you thinking men? a joke predection? like your idol negerflod full of hilarious super nonesense pacquiao will win sorry no excuse para iyot mo duha nag rugby man gud mo |
mmmmkk
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reason why manny will beat floyd. floyd does not hit in combos just pot shots. manny throws 10 punches for every 1 that floyd throws mayweather does not possess the power like manny does. no one has really testd floyds chin. but i will gurantee manny will hit floyd with a few power punches. floyd skips around like a chicken always on the back foot. something you cannot do in a fight with manny as he will keep coming and coming all night long... |
mmmmkk
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floyd will be eating mannys sweet and sour chicken balls all day |
Cassius Clay
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Manny Pacquiao = Great White Hope |
NDESTRUKT
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doc spoc, bolo, antwilkez and boxing einstien!! these are modern days idiot and dumb ass people! get ready for your excuses and alibi after the match.. LOL  |
the truth
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zab is as good as pacquiao. who the hell did he beat. how many divisions did pacquiao win 7 right? time magazine. fought morales, barrera, jmm, hatton, dela hoya, hatton, ledwaba, cotto. you think those guys are bums. so cotto who beat zab conviningly is a bum. what makes zab that nearly beat floyd. didn't cotto beat mosely badly also made his face puffed up and blood shot eyes. shane is also a bum? floyd is scared of shane maragirto. wasn't pacman dried also jmm fight both times and manage to win 2 times. the draw was mistake by a judge. mayweather floats like a butterfly but that's it. |
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