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This would explain ALOT. |
bolo
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there is no excuse he can make. he is looking at making 40 million dollers on this fight. and this is a test all the great athletes have done and all it does is make sure you are clean during the cycle and time that it can be detected using methods that can detect during the cycle the drug is in the system he seams to only want to be tested when the drug would not be in his system.if he refuses to take the test and really walks away from all that money it can only mean one thing. you can not defend him if he refuses. looks like mayweather's father really did see something. |
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mayweather camp wanted olympic style drug testing. pacman wanted 10 million doller penalty for every pound mayweather overweight. witch is unheard of. mayweather agreed. he has agreed to everything. 50,50 split. gloves are size pacman wanted. date is on march 13th date pacman camp wanted. pacman camp has gotten everything they wanted but you dont want to do testing that would make sure both fighters are clean? your gona walk away from 40 million dollers. and to make it worse roach a few weeks ago on espn said his camp had no problem with the testing. he said let them test him, they are afraid of him. now all of a sudden they dont want to do the test. i guess roach himself didnt know his fighter was juiced. the mighty pacman nothing but a cheat. shame. all good . i guess mosley is up next end of summer. pacman can throw away his neadles or his patch since he is probably using hgh and go do his polotics. |
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pacman agreed to have his blood drawn at the start of the press conference and immediately after the fight, but not in training. blood drawn hours before the fight and 5 minutes after the fight would show the same exact results. what would be the big difference? this showed mayweather's weakness but not pacquiao's. |
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Boxing needs better testing period! These commissions use old techniques. Use the Olympic standards, erase all doubt, take a little blood out and lets get it on!! |
Homer
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layzie guy
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bolo
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jp there is a reason why olympic testing is different, its because the way you are talking about and pacman camp is talking about does not show with certain drugs. pacman could start his cycle after the news conferance and use the drugs untill a week b4 the compatition. its will not show after the fight. and mayweather camp is not looking for hours b4 the fight. olympic style testing would test pacman and mayweather 48 hours b4 the fight. that is two days. mayweather camp has agreed to everything. even the 10 million doller per weight if mayweather goes over thing. to throw away all that money over something that any true sport that wants to make sure it is clean. there is only one reason he would throw away all that money. he is cheating. |
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if i was bob arum i would be all over pacquiaos conditioning coach, alex ariza, right now doing my own tests of EVERYTHING he gives manny |
bolo
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roach didnt know because he was all gunho about pacman doing test. now he has made a 360 turn on his views. i wouldnt be surprised if pacman didnt know. the testing was part of the contract for a good month already. i guess there was a big reason he did not sign. there is only one reason not to get tested. he should just get tested loose the fight and call it a day. |
doctorSpoc
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| bottom line is that floyd has agreed to everything.. this is manny pacquiao punking out of the fight.. there is just no other way to spin it. if he has nothing to hide then why not just take the damn tests??? F!CK i was looking forward to this fight!!! but ask yourself... why WOULD manny or anyone give up 40 million dollars (30 mil after arum gets his share) because he doesn't want to be pricked in the arm a few times? you could take a gallon of my blood and i'd fight both the kiltchos at the same time for 40 mil! i can think of one very rationale, well thought out reason.. if he's cheating (maybe he talked to his "strength coach" and he said.. dude, you can't take those test..) and if he gets caught the fight is going to get called off anyway, and he's going to lose the money anyway.. and on top of that his reputation and legacy will be ruined (there's always going to be a question mark beside his wins now, but it will be a question mark.. they won't get erased).. he doesn't get the money, but he even if he takes the tests and fails he wouldn't get it.. if he cuts an runs now.. he does get to keep what's left of his reputation and legacy... |
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I dont think he is on HGH, he has the stanozol look. Super strong and ripped all the time.But if this is true then Floyd and Sugar can fight for the real p4p. |
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lessen Guys and trust me on this one. This is just another Mind Game that camp pacman is pulling on everyone and the mayweather camp. this fight will happen. this is just to get people Thinking and that when he does go ahead and does the test everyone will Think that he was on something, when he really never was. When it is all said and done PACMAN will Be Champ after Wipping PBF ASS!!!!!! |
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Check this one out. urine testing is sufficient that you won’t miss anything, especially with performance-enhancing drugs. That is from an expert. Pacman is willing to do urine testing 24/7. The USADA what’s to run random Blood testing when they what. If I am in training I would not what somebody poking me when they want to, I also think that is Bull Shit. Pacman agrees to do 3 test. In Jan, 30days before the fight and then last one after. And he also agrees to do the urine test 24/7. I think that is way more then fair. But to Top it off an an expert said that if he is using Any Type of drug the Urine testing 24/7 will catch it. I think PBF wants drain PACMAN’s Blood out as may times as he can so then PACMAN will be weak by fight night. IPBF is just full of Bull Shit. And I cannot wait to is PACMAN Wipe that ASS!!!! Here is the link to the full story from the expert. http://www.fightnews.com/?p=33765 |
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check your source again hammer. urine testing does not expose eveything that is the reason cycling and the olympics dont do just urine testing. an olympic official incharge of drug testing spoke to espn and gave the reasons and gave the kind of drugs u can not test with urine. you have google.com it will give u a list. just testing urine does not work for todays drugs and there are drugs that are only detectable for short period of time thats why the tests are randome. pacman is eather playing head games or he is a cheat no way around it. |
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im glad your supporting him though seems all the pacman lovers have disapeared again |
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layzie guy
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Suave
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| I'm not accusing Manny of cheating, but let's be honest with ourselves. There will always be some people who will cheat or bend the rules to get an advantage. That's just the way it is. If Floyd is so concerned about drug testing, then he should take his case to the Nevada State Athletic Commission to implement the USADA drug testing policies for "ALL" fighers. |
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Pacman is scared as HELL & THAT'Z ALL it iz 2 IT!!! HE''S got loosen his stance some & just agree!! now with all this coming up, it lookz like he's been on something all along!! |
Jandro83
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| "pacman agreed to have his blood drawn at the start of the press conference and immediately after the fight, but not in training. blood drawn hours before the fight and 5 minutes after the fight would show the same exact results. what would be the big difference? this showed mayweather's weakness but not pacquiao's." dude like DocSpoc once said here, if u take HGH any test defining residue left is out of ur system in 2 days, ofcourse he can say when he wants to take the tests so HE has control, i'm a huge Manny fan, but im not liking this, i say Olympic Drug Tests like OBF suggested, everything should be RANDOM, there r no excuses, he's probably hiding something, when people act like that there always something going one remember when the Margarito taking steroinds for the Cotto fight 1st came out? Capetillo wuickly nervously stated "If they find anything in Margaritos blood its probably tranquilizers we gave him before fight night cause he was too anxious." Marg passed the tests, but look at was found out in the Mosley fight. There's something fishy going on around here, if ur not guilty of anything u shouldnt have any objections to taking random blood tests. |
dipsta
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| thank you jandro! and look pacquiao fans, its not like u have to stop rootin' for ur boy! everyone is all over Mosley's nuts these days-proven cheater! im still Margarito's big time fan-cheater! ill never leave that boys corner, shit like this happens! oh well! everyone says Pacquiao hasn't been the same since the 2nd Marquez fight right!? go fkn figure, the dude found out the hard but fortunate way by getting a gift wrapped decision that he's not invincible....now this! really!? one thing as men we all need to realize at one point in our lives is that we all got a little DOG in us! im not justifying cheating, im just saying, we've all made some bad choices in life and thats that! only a fool would expect perfection from anyone, much less a person on the popularity status level as these 2 fighters. with all that being said....HEY MANNY! TAKE THE FKN DRUG TEST! YOU LOOK LIKE SHIT RIGHT NOW!! AND ITS NOT LIKE YOU WERE GOING TO WIN ANYWAY! |
Swodogg
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| Yo man, Im a pacquiao fan, but this sucks. This fight is the biggest fight in 15-20 years and boxing needs a clean fight. I know pac trains like a mad man and peeps say his trainer is clean, but what about all 50+ people in his team/entourage? The whole point is testing has to be RANDOM, Pacquiao can't be scheduling to take blood tests BEFORE and AFTER training. These drugs are taken DURING training to bulk up. Look at Fernando Vargas on Roids the dude is yoked and cut! Look at him off Roids and he looks like a heavyweight! |
Homer
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| I think everybodies missing the point. This isn't about drugs, its about control, and the Mayweather people are trying to impose themselves on the Pacquiao people. Pacquiao would not agree to anything remotely suggested by the Mayweathers, and it was clever of the Mayweathers to pick this issue with all its implications. |
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the bottom line is this.......... ''MONEY'' WHUPS PACMAN'S AZZ!!! PERIOD...... Ya'll gone see & I cant wait!! |
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mayweather wants to annoy pacquiao as much as he can. but u have to admit, it worked! LOL buboy fernandez needs to come clean, he has probably been slipping some pills in manny's lumpia with out him knowing! |
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this is not about anoying anyone and its not about control. if you look at it pacman camp has gotten everything they wanted. 50/50 split. they are using the gloves pacman wanted. the fight is on the day pacman wanted and floyd even agreed to 10 million doller per pound penalty if he goes over set weight. pacman has gotten everything he has wanted. all mayweather is asking for is testing to make sure they are both clean for the fight. taking the blood takes less then 3 minets. i work in medical field, we do it all day. and the blood he looses will be replaced in less then an hour. walking away from 40 million dollers because of a test that takes a few minets. only reason would be that he is not fighting clean.if it was the other way around we all know what people would be saying. mayweather would be killed in the papers and people are really trying to make him out to be the bad guy in this situation. thats crazy. the test being used. does not work. mosley used hgh for multiple fights and never tested positive. mayweather has given pacman everything he has asked for. all he is asking for is a test that will make sure both fighters are clean. you cant defend this guy. he is cheating. |
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and bhop what the hell are you talking about. mosley refused to fight mayweather twice. and mayweather has given pacman everything he has asked for this fight. the testing has been part of contract for over a month. its not something new. pacman camp has just decided that they dont want to do the test the way its suppose to be done. wake up to walk away from all that money for something that takes 1 to 3 minets. the dood is dirty. i actually wouldnt have even cared if pacman didnt fight mayweather as long as he fought mosley. but pacman has said he wont fight mosley and i guess he doesnt want to fight mayweather eather. walking away from all that money because of testing. all of you need to wake up. |
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barrykil1980
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antonyp43
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| Listen to all youy fraud mayweather fans.Manny aint cheatin or why would he say take urine and blood straight after the fight,both of wich would show up any irregularities.Its floyd duckin yet again and tryin to make it look like its manny who duckin and cheatin.Ask yourselves this,why would pac agree to urine before then blood straight after the fight,if he was cheatin.He superstitious and floyd sr knew this,thats why he pulled this one.That way floyd saves face by not losin,which he would,AND AT THE SAME TIME LOOKS LIKE AN ANGEL.weHAT A PERFORMANCE,AND ALL YOU PBF FANS SWOLLOWED IT ONCE MORE. |
layzie guy
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| BHop213 said: Floyd is findin any excuse to throw a wrench into the works ... he dont want any part of PacMan just like he didnt want Cotto, Margarito or Mosley believe that! YOU SEE WHAT I MEAN? PACMAN FANS ARE IDIOTS. EVERY..SINGLE..ONE..OF..THEM. ITS NOT FLOYD WHO IS SAYING THE FIGHT IS OFF. ITS PACQUIAOS CAMP. AND THEY REALLY CANT DO ANYTHING BUT ACCEPT THE RANDOM DRUG TEST. IF HE BAILS OUT THE FIGHT WHAT DO YOU THINK HIS NEXT OPPONENT WILL DEMAND? RANDOM DRUG TEST DUH! |
layzie guy
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| antonyp43 said: Listen to all youy fraud mayweather fans.Manny aint cheatin or why would he say take urine and blood straight after the fight,both of wich would show up any irregularities.Its floyd duckin yet again and tryin to make it look like its manny who duckin and cheatin.Ask yourselves this,why would pac agree to urine before then blood straight after the fight,if he was cheatin.He superstitious and floyd sr knew this,thats why he pulled this one.That way floyd saves face by not losin,which he would,AND AT THE SAME TIME LOOKS LIKE AN ANGEL.weHAT A PERFORMANCE,AND ALL YOU PBF FANS SWOLLOWED IT ONCE MORE. ^ THIS GUY MUST BE THE BIGGEST IDIOT OUT OF ALL THE PACMAN FANS IVE COME ACROSS. AHHHHHHHHHHH BOY OH BOY. YOU SEE WHY IVE BEEN TRYING TO STOP ARGUING WITH THEM. THEY JUST DONT GET IT. ''CANT GET RIGHTS'' IS WHAT I CALL THEM, CUZ THEY JUST CANT GET IT RIGHT |
JoeLuis
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| ITs BOOBOy's fault! Roach didnt know. Pacman is a cheat, but inocent until proven guilty. thamn if this is true im so dissapointed. Today might be another low blow for boxing if pacquiao doesnt sign that paper. The religios crap might have some true in it and that's all im hoping for.(like all of you i was looking forward to this one fight). These Demands are all doable between these two fighter and i dont blame pbf for requesting such, especialy for a mega-fight like this one. PBF seems like he found a great way of getting out of this one, but at what cost? 40 mil! that is. Some people are calling it the fight of the decade.. wtf! they must be on something... This fight might not get signed afterall but here's some fights that are already signed and ready for us fans! Mosley vs berto, Edwin Valero vs. Antonio DeMarco, Arthur Abraham vs. Andre Dirrell,Andre Ward vs. Jermain Taylor,Carl Froch vs. Mikkel Kessler, and last but not least Israel Vazquez vs. Rafael Marquez. |
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| good point layzie guy.. do you think anyone who isn't a complete bum is going to fight that cheater without random blood test? is anyone going to fight margarito without completely examining his wraps? manny's got everything he's asked for.. floyd as for one thing.. and they say no.. what's with all the tattoos and he's supposed to be scared of needles... this guy is a joke! |
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damn! I'm surprised that many people are believing in me, you don't know the truth people. I'm scared to fight the PACMAN.. I've got goosebumps already for typing his name. |
Homer
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BHop213
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Jandro83
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Pacquiao agreed to be blood tested after the fight right in his locker room. He also agreed to a 24/7 urine tests if he has to... So what the heck? He never said he doesn't want to he just doesn't like the timing. a post fight test is as good as random tests...period!. |
doctorSpoc
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| PacuMayweather - you are f!ck'n clueless! to test for steroids you want to test in the weeks before the fight when manny is in the gym building muscle and strength... fighters might also use blood doping.. removing and re-injecting his own or someone else's blood to gain endurance.. you want to test for this even on the day of the even and/or right after EPO.. the new CERA version of EPO.. 1-2 weeks before.. if he's using micro dosing... you really need to be doing blood profiling for months before like they do in cycling with what they call a biological passport program manny want the tests scheduled and cut off times for test etc.. this is unacceptable because this will let atheletes know exactly what to take and when to take it.. that's why the usada does the testing the way they do.. the just didn't randomly come up with a protocol.. it's to prevent as much as possible people getting around tests because they know when, even approximately when they are coming and when they will start and stop.. this is unacceptable.. might as well just not do the test then.. |
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Pacquiao didn't say no to a blood test. However he want it in his own terms: after the first conference, 30 days before the fight, and just after the fight in his own dressing room. If ain't that enough, I would think that Mayweather is again on the run away from a possible confrontation with an opponent as strong as Pacquiao. He'd seen how Cotto was demolished and he cried, "No, No, No, I can't fight that ugly guy becuse he is on roids. Look how strong he is. He is small and I'm suppose to be bigger and stronger but hell, he is..." what a crybaby! |
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DocSpoc, you are clueless and stupid. Pacquiao didn't say "no" to a blood test but he wants it in his own terms: blood test at the first conference, 30 days before the fight and just after the fight in his own dressing room and a urine sampling 24/7. If that ain't enough, then your idol the mayweather is ducking this fight. didn't I tell you before that he's a runner? Now you see I'm right. He might as well prepare for the Brazilian Olympic if that's what he wants. He thinks that he's into amateur boxing still....poor dreamer boy floyd. |
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Mayweather is just a coward and a crybaby. When he saw the demolition of Cotto, he and Malignaggi cried, "oh no, no, no...I don't like to fight this guy not unless i'm sure he's not on roids...Look how strong he is?" back on tantrums. Poorbabyfloyd! |
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To all Pacfans, will you shut up! Floyd is just a boy! he is pretty and he doesn't want his record and his face reconfigured! don't you see that he wants to be known in history as a boxer with no loss? at all? please leave him alone. He wants to be known as the boxer who played second fiddle to Pacquiao! is that bad? no! please shut up Pacfans! |
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I repeat: Pacqauiao didn't say no to a blood test: he wants it after the first conference, 30 days (2 months in training) before the fight and just after the fight. Now what's the excuse for that all you Mayweather fans? |
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Shocker i will baptize Mjr with a new name: Prettybabyfloyd for being a crybaby!!! what a shame!!! |
Homer
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the times pacman is agreeing to the drug tests are crazy. he can start cycle of hgh or other drugs and stop them a few days b4 fight and test negative after the fight. that is the hole point of olymoic style testing to stop someone frombeing able to do that and stop talking about him never testing positive. mosley never tested positive eather but has been proven to using hghduring balco investigation. but guess what he would have tested positive if there was olympic style testing. you are crazy to defend this guy. |
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