Friday, 10 February 2012
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I weren't impressed with Clottey against Zab, but he looked good against cotto. An fighter thats just starting to find hiz way in the ring. I kinda like the dude to be fair, but not sure he's got what it takes to stop the whirlwind pacman. Clott's power didn't trouble cotto, pacmans did. Cotto's power had clotts on hiz ass from a jab, albeit a shot that was more about balance rather tham power. Clott's in a typical African fighter, durable and strong too. But he's one of the 1st fighter's of this type that has some good footwork, technical ability and stamina. Not to mention the guys hungry, saying that i think that this will screw him over as hiz emotions get the best of him as they did when cotto jabbed him on hiz ass. Pacs will frustrate the dude and force him to open up as cotto did, i mean think about it, cotto just opened up that little bit to increase the power knowing that after the knock downs he was behind, and he got tagged hard. i feel clotts will feel that wrath of pacs speed, accuracy and power. Pacs to win by another stoppage/ko! |
sikwitit78
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i personaly think bazooka quartey was better than clottey skill wise but clottey def stronger and durable . i doubt clottey will be able handle pacs speed and work rate also if pac took cottos left hook even though was weight drained and still dehydrated by fight night cotto dont think clottey has power to ko pac ..pac gonna run circles around him darting in and out |
goldenbear77
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Clottey has the skills and abilities to beat Pacman but I don't know about his mental stamina for boxing. I like Clottey a lot and felt he won the Coto fight but he becomes too complacent during fights and that's his only achilles heel albeit a big one. |
355X6 Bench
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Ike was the strongest 147 I have ever seen, in terms of strength, punching power goes to Shane or Tito. |
Jandro83
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what? Clottey didnt impress against Judah? i heard alot of complaints about that fight about being controversial, but when i got to see it, man Josh was toying around with Judah, he landed at will an Judah NEVER got through the shell to land clean shots, and that cut was caused by a punch, so it shouldve been a TKO, yet it was a TD and people complained about Judah being robbed, those people were blind, if the Joshua that fought Judah and Margo comes to the ring in March, he has a big chance of beating Pacquiao, cause with defense and sharpshooter accuracy and countering skills shown in those 2 fights, Pacman will have the toughest fight of his career, not to mention Clottey has fought up to 160 and the only time hes been down was with Cotto, but that was cause you could clearly see he was nervous in the early rounds and Cotto caught him by surprise. |
Jmc561
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If that sucker can knock his big ass head into Pacquiao's little chinese noggin that's half the size of his, busts his eye open, he could pull it off. Gotta make it an ugly affair, a lot of 1,2 hold, lean on him, headbutt, maybe work in a few low blows, double hooks to the body. The more I think about it, the more I'm seeing that that is how Clottey fights every fight. Maybe he's gonna make fools of us all. If the ref is the type that won't do shit, Pac could have a tough night. The ref will be important. A stern ref could give Pac an advantage, and a lazy one gives Clottey an edge. Seeing as this is Pacquiao, the singing governor/golden girl of boxing, you know the ref is gonna be all on Clottey's back. When Pac goes to Ghana and beats Clottey I'll be impressed. |
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It wasn't impressive Jandro, because he's not a fighter that has has anything impressive on display until the cotto fight that is. Judah was man handled, and was picked of at will after hiz eye almost fell out. May have been the punch that caused it, but the rough stuff before cudnt have helped the cause. I had Zab winning until that point, but werent much in it. If clots had impressed there wud have been no question who deserved to win? ppl thought zab had the better of it for a reason. I like the dude as i say, and he's getting luking good in hiz latest fights, but don't think he's got that little extra that some of the people that have beat him have. That paitence, that level of self control, THAT POWER!!! (says hiz record which doesn't read all that well, with around a 50% KO rate in hiz 40odd fights!) Good luck to him, and i'd like to see him do well, pacman will send him back down to fighting with top fighters but not the elite fighters. |
Jandro83
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well im still rooting for Clottey anyway, i hope Roach underestimates him, and i hope Clottey finds it in him to pull the trigger, as long as he makes it and inside fight and manhandles Pacquiao i think Clottey can pull it off, oh and as for Clottey using his head??? ive seen alot of fight from Clottey and he barely uses his head, hell he fights in a peekaboo style leaning BACKWARDS theres no way he can headbutt much, and as for the Cotto fight, it was clearly accidental cause if you watch the replay Joshua was pulling backward to raise his guard then Cotto lunged in for the hook and his head landed on Clotteys, it wasnt Clotteys position there, Cotto was the one who lunged forward. |
Jandro83
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oh and like i said for the Judah fight, Judah didnt land any clear clean punches, he just couldnt get through Clotteys guard, the people protesting there were the ones live, the ones who wont see the fight as clear as someone watching on TV, and by the way i box, and theres something i learned when i got the hang of boxing, its a good eye, people who dont box wont see fights as clearly as someone who does and can see punches that do land at times and some that dont which a normal person wont notice. just watch the Judah fight again and everytime Judah explodes with combinations put it in slow motion and you will see he didnt land shit. |
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So how do u know i dont box? Or half the people on this forum? I wont boast about what i see i fights, but i know that Judah luked sharper, busier and connected on more than a few occasions. Will watch the fight again as i saw it live the once, you sound like u've taken it upon yourself to study it, so i'll give it another watch. We both no there's a significant gap in class here, and although i hope Clottey does well coz he has my respect i cant see him lasting the full 12! PacMans wins, fights mosley as he's ending Gayweather, clottey ends up rematching some1 like cotto or margo as by now he's well and truly been proven as a good but not elite fighter, and those that have lost to the Pacs, Gayweathers and SSM's are left to battle it out to clamber back to the top! |
JoeLuis
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Clottey's effort to win falls a-tad short all the time. He has left fights to close to call. i believe that he could've won more rounds vs cotto and perhaps a ko but decided to do just bare minimum and that's his flaw. Because of this, i think pac will dictate the pace and someone's gonna get ko'ed. (prob clottey, unless he steps it up and answers fire w fire). It might be just me but i think many of pacman's attacks are lead by him not allowing the oponent to swing to pac's left. If you notice he blocks that path with his right feet.(so his right foot is outside of oponents left) this way he kinda knows that oponent either stays in front or comes to his left. |
sikwitit78
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think it will be good fight but dont see clottey winning pacs to fast and has high work rate where as clottey has never showed any urgency in any fight hes to damn calm all the time ..he could have beat cotto but let him of the hook by not pressureing or working the advantage ..i was there live to root for cotto so would have been upset if cotto lost but ..it was more clottey letting him take the win than cotto just taking it. |
bolo
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hait to bust your bubble RAVO. but if mosley wins. he has to give floyd an emediet rematch. clause in contract.manny should have fought mosley instead of cotto anyway. and on yahoo it sais manny took a blood test on feb 23rd for probably h.i.v and that kind of stuff. thats two weeks be the fight i think 16 days. floyd was ok with cut off being 14 days b4 fight. if he is ok taking blood test 16 days b4 fight for clotty why not agree on 14 day cutoff with floyd for 4 times the amount of money he is getting for this fight. why stand firm at 25 day cuttoff then do a blood test 16 days b4 this fight. and this is a very valid question so please no b.s responses |
bolo
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sikwitt. clottey is slow man. you have to edmit it. and as the fight goes on he gets slower. manny is gona run right through that boy. if manny gets hurt all he has to do is what cotto did. move and jab. clottey is slow as hell.manny is gona destroy it. this fight is not gona be competative clottey's only chance is getting a lucky punch. i truley dont think this is going to be a good fight. well it will be good for manny. its gona be one sided the entire fight.i prey im wrong but i preaty sure im not. |
JoeLuis
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Pacroid has shown that he's too strong. clottey's pickABOO defense is going to get destroyed. I dont think clottey being slow will break him, but his lack of punches will. (he needs to stay active). Look at Marquez, he isnt the fastes and he did took pac for a run. |
sikwitit
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unlike pacs fight with cotto ..clottey will be actual full WW and come actual fight night he will be around 165-170 and is already durable so doubt he just gets steam rolled but def dont see him winning like i said and others have said clotteys lack of activity will be his biggest prob ..he has ok speed with punches but is slow on his feet but still one of the better WW |
355X6 Bench
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Its kinda funny but all the cats from Ghana seem to loose heart in the big one, well at least Quartey and Clotty, they are so great with gobs of power and great stamina but when things get hot they go defencive and forget about combos, Quartey vs. Clotty would be great. Ike fought in africa last year @ welter and won, he still looks good but as soon as you hit a certain age then no one wants to put you on hbo anymore, its a shame cuz i hear Ike can still slam @ welter. Hbo never gave that man a fair look but he had some fans and I thought he was damn good. If you were to offer him a good money fight I think Ike could still beat some dudes today. Hbo will only blow their house fighters , thats why they call it home boys only ,(HBO). |
bolo
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clottey is a stationary fighter and is slow. pac is too active for an entire fight and with the power is has developed in the last two year?????? bad bad combination for clottey. and clottey gets tired secound half of fights. pac can keep high intensity for an entire fight. i truely think this wont be close. only fighters thatcan beat pac in that weight class are mosley and floyd. wont say pw cause no one in welt devision gona fight him. maybe mosley after he looses to floyd. hopefully he looses anyway. |
bolo
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i retract one of my previous statements. manny took blood test 20 days b4 clottey fight not 16. physical. h.i.v tb tests stuff like that. but why would u say giving blood earlier then 24 days b4 fight would make u weak then take blood test 20 days b4 fight. not trying to start a back and fourth thing. he just seems to be making a lot of contradictory statements and doing a lot of contradictory thing. i wonder whats going on with clottey and his training anyway. who is training him. |
bolo
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papa floyd... i hope u win over shane and you can fuck my ass again |
355X6 Bench
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As long as Shane dont let his temper get in his way he should beat Floyd. He has to stay calm enough to land his shots and not get sidetracked cuz Floyd still keeps talking real bad about him and Floyd knows hows to get inside someone's head he did that to Oscar. I think Shanes ready to fight and stay on plan. Hell find Floyd but he needs alot of body work and heavy headshots to hurt him in the long run.He needs 2 jabs coming in every time to offset Floyd's rythm. Floyd on the other hand has to fight a perfect fight to win, hes not going to hurt Shane his real hope is to outpoint him, hell have to employ the jab like never before and land the lead right to offset Shane's rythm and really try to out fight him to some degree. In real life this will be a outstanding fight. Can Floyd hurt Shane? Can Shane Land the power that made him famous? Can Floyd Handle the strongest welter in the world? Can Shane Handle the fastest welter in the land? Will the Offencive Expert find The Defencive wizard? All of those questions will be answered soon and it will be the best fight in years. |
toto
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i just wanna see pacman pimp slap all the fighters during the fight. pacman is the best n i hope he moves up to middleweight to knock out everybody |
sikwitit78
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middle weight ? if makes it to middle weight and is good hes def not from this planet...and has every steroid on earth coursing through him...no way at 5'6" can he go to middle weight and be affective |
Pinoyfighter1
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Pacquiao is the best but he is a Filipino and he is fighting on the 13th. You can ask majority of the Filipinos..he is a good fighter but the date is not good. So a lucky punch from Cottey could bring him down. |
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