Wednesday, 08 February 2012
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easy one for money.. |
Homer
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My Gawd! Mark this day down. I kinda agree with Floyd. |
Jandro83
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Floyds right, and as much as id like to see Mosley win, i cant see it happening. |
Jmc561
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Floyd all day! And he's right, pre-fight, people talk all kinds of trash, but afterward, they just downplay the opponent. They always got some excuse, and the excuse on May 1 will be Mosley is too old, even though he just had one of his best career performances. |
355X6 Bench
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I Dont think Shane is too old, if May beats him then Ill give him full credit. He still wont win this fight. The only way May wins is controversal des., and that wont happen cuz Shane is gonna knock Floyd out. Im not ready to jump on the Flomo bandwagon yet or ever for that matter. |
Jmc561
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well 365, then you can keep siding against Floyd, and keep losing being disappointed and looking dumb |
355X6 Bench
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Easy jcm465, you have been sucking liquid children from his tool for some time, I have never bet against this flhomo, cuz this is the first fight he is in. You can love him all you want hes still getting smashed. |
355X6 Bench
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Thats why he woulnt take the fight without a rematch clause in the contract. |
Jmc561
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Shane got out boxed by Cotto. If Cotto can do it I'm pretty sure Floyd can. |
sikwitit
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styles make fights ...learn the sport yeah cotto boxed but also had strength and power to keep mosley at bay..and didnt mosley destroy the guy that beat cotto...STYLES MAKE FIGHTS just cause you beat this guy dont mean you beat that guy ...like frasier beat ali then forman beat frasier but ali still beat forman |
TommyGunn
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De La Hoya beat Mayorga, Mayorga beat Forrest (RIP), Forrest beat Mosley, Mosley Beat De La Hoya...All about style of fighters! |
TommyGunn
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I don't know if he knew about the rematch clause... but he claims that he didn't know about it. http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12183_5920693,00.html |
sikwitit
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had to know about it was mentioned a few times before signed contract and everybody knows how he and his advisers go over the contracts 100 times |
Jmc561
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Styles make fights, and Shane has a bad style for Floyd, no jab and leads with somewhat wide punches, making it easy for Floyd to roll and pot shot. Floyd's a better boxer and I can't see Shane getting a stoppage, Floyd's too cagey |
355X6 Bench
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What everybody here xept Sik and Tommy, doesnt understand is styles do make fights, Cotto never beat Shane! Shane landed more punches, had a higher connect rate and chased him for the last three rounds.HBO has a knack for giving the nod to what they think is the most promotable guy, they gave Jermain the nod and he didnt last. They gave Cotto the nod and he didnt last, they gave Eric Morales the nod over Pac and do you see the pattern? You guys should see reality for what it is and not what some blind suit on tv says. If Shane comes in he better know that he has to ko Floyd to win cuz HBO will give it to Floyd even if he gets knocked down 3 times. HBO and their judges are all about the money and the most money out there for the network is FHomo vs Pac you know that! It doesnt matter cuz Shane will win by ko.And dont even get me started when it comes to the Judges, HBO whines and dines these guys with sweetheart deals including Vacations and casino Comps hotels and gambleing, youd be blind to. |
Jandro83
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Bench WTF??? i thought you knew more about boxing than that, look you gotta watch fights more than one time to understand them, when i saw Mosley/Cotto the 1st time, yes i too thought it couldve gone either way, but after watcing a few times carefully Cotto won that fight clearly 8rnds to 4, and the last 3 rnds Cotto was already ahead and if you dont believe me watch again as i say this- rnds 10-12 Mosley barely landed 5 clear shots ALL 3 RNDS TOGETHER, while Cotto was boxing and countering, and just watch the fight again carefully and countem, Cotto won easily and he emulated PBFs style most of the fight, but its PBF THE MASTER if his style we're talking about here, yes i want Mosley to win badly, but i just dont see it happening. |
355X6 Bench
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Shanes punches were way more effective,Shane landed more and threw less. He hits harder then Cotto any day! any time! just ask Tony. Tony was interviewed on Galavision and they asked him who hits harder and he said Shanes punches were WAY HARDER then Cottos and Shane is WAY FASTER. Everyone all of a sudden thinks May is unbeatable, his punches will never hurt Shane. Shane is gonna make him look so fcn vunrable, Ill bet any money that Shane will put Floyd on his ass mark my words. I am calling it as I see it. And FYI I own that one to. Im not the only one that thinks Shane is gonna cook FHomo, Many experts and world champs think the same, Joe Goosen,Robert Gerrero,Manny Pacman, and plenty of other people think Shane is gonna spank that ass, there right and so am I. |
355X6 Bench
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I also believe that you reap what you sow. Floyd was saying that Shane is a bum and that he old and Very deperate. He gonna pay for that! Hell eat every fcn word! Shane never bashed his scardy cat ass, all those years of running and talking bad and now his fans think hell get off scott free? I dont think so! If you know anything about the sport then you should know the phrase: "Refuse to Loose", Shane aint loosing this fight. Shane has been through hell with his divorce, no fcn respect, boxers backing out, May talking shxt, you can take my word he is a ANGRY MOTHERFKR, Floyds biggest mistake is getting in the ring with this guy. |
alex santillan
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The wonder of it all is that: Why fight an old man? The answer is quite simple - he was left in the dustbin when Pacman moved on and theres no other fighter left. If not for Mosley Gaychicken could have ended fighting the nightclub rapper - and thats a sure win! |
bolo
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no way of telling how the fight is going to go mosley might be able to preasure him. or floyd might be able to shut down mosley completely or it might be a tight fight. at the end of the day its two of the top three in the world fighting and it actually will happen. |
Gun Ru Hammer
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Yeah Bench, its all a consipracy man, perpitrated by the US goverment. Type in code ot they'll get you too  |
355X6 Bench
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Who put a fcn nickel in your machine? I never even talk to you! Go back to your room and play with your toys or better yet find some fcn friends. |
355X6 Bench
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Bolo that is the first thing you said that we agree on.I dont know what will happen, the only thing I can say is yeah its two of the three best in the world and the fans are the real winners. My thought is Sugar never really got his recognition, when he was young everybody loved Oscar,when he beat Oscar then everyone loved Tito,Roy,May Or Pac its high time for me that this Great Champion gets his love,respect, and credit. Shane's humble demenor, great fighting skill, and class plus respect for the sport make him EXELLENT. He is a real winner. |
Jandro83
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ive always liked Mosley, hell i never wanted Tito to face Mosley cause i knew Mosley was gonna destroy him lol, but still even though i hate PBF i do respect him as a fighter, and now its pissing me off that everyone is underestimating him, and now im siding with PBF for this fight, hes gonna blank Mosley and i wanna see him KO the shit out of Pacman. |
Jandro83
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i bet you were one of those guys that actually thought Margarito had a chance against Mosley lol. |
355X6 Bench
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Jandro your in fcn dreamlang again! I never liked nor did I ever support Tony! Didnt you read the part where I said that I have been waching Shane since the Fcn ams you fcn moron. |
355X6 Bench
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You still think Hecktor fcn Camacho beat Chavez, you dont know the diffrence between boxing and baseball jackass. |
Jandro83
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well you never did answer one of my questions, do you think Calderon ran from Cazares or outbox him? |
355X6 Bench
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Calderon outboxed his fcn ears off! There is a diffrece between running and the diffrence is when you box you are still being effective. Hector looked good in spots but he could not hit hard enough to offset the Chavez onslaught. Cotto looked good in spots but Mosley's punches had more fire on them. May looked geat in retreat against Marquez cuz he slowly but shurly pot shots and pinpoints his man into subbmission. May is a great fighter there is no doubt obout it, my arguement is that this fight will be a Chavez Camacho replay. Shanes punching power will show, the same way Flos movementand boxing prowless will show also. In the end I see Shane winning. |
355X6 Bench
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If Shane kos Floyd then the world will scream for,Sugar vs. Pac just the same way they want Flo vs. Pac. The other reason I want Shane to win is cuz the fight with Pac will be far more exiting on paper at Least. |
Jandro83
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Calderon fights in similar fashion as PBF and Camacho and he has absolutely no pop on his punches, man you just contradicted yourself. |
355X6 Bench
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I didnt contradict shit, part of it was a higher volume of punches. Caldy is busyer then Floyd or Hector, Floyd's advantage is he still hits a little harder than Caldy or Hector; However, Shane hits harder than any of Hectors or Caldy's opponents therefore Shanes better punching power and Better chin will make him look better against Flo then Caldy looked against Cazarez or Hector looked against Chavez. You should try a reading comprehention class or try not to read into every statment so literally, before you judge somone who has been a boxingfan longer then you have been alive. |
Jandro83
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ok come May first i dont wanna read absolutely any kind of excuse if PBF blanks out Mosley ok? |
355X6 Bench
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If Floyd beats him fiar and square, Ill give him pure credit and admit that i am wrong. If he beats Shane clearly then to me , it would make him the best in the world for sure. But if Shane spanks him then you should do the same. |
355X6 Bench
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OK? |
bolo
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everyone is talking about how srong mosley is and its almost a foregone conclusion that he will be able to get to mayweather. that is a realy big if. noone sofar has been able to do so. im not saying mosley wont be the first. he is a great fighter but floyd is no push over. this is floyds biggest test. but this is mosleys biggest test as well if he cant adapt in that ring it will be a long night for him but like i said b4 this is one of those fights u dont know whats going to happen. it could be close but it could be onesided all night. what ever happens no excuses for eather fighter. it will be a great fight eather way. |
355X6 Bench
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There is no forgone conclusions here, thats why they will fight to find out. Anything can happen, thats why this is such an amazing spot. |
Jandro83
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yep, i know i wont make any excuses if Mosley wins, cause i actually want him to win, but just dont underestimate PBF. |
BigBangerz
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Lol. I think these forums get more and more out of control. Take a deep breath everyone. LOL. Ill throw in my two cents even though it probably wouldnt be enough to buy a cup of coffee. Mayweather is faster (hand speed, foot work, head movement),just as strong has a better defense, and possibly better ring generalmanship than Mosley. The only advantage i see with Mosley is he is refreshed and on a comeback. He also has the ability to knock out Mayweather with one punch. If he can land the punch is the question. |
Gun Ru Hammer
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Wait, did Bench just try to diss me? Put a quarter in my machine, WTF does that mean kid? Its bad enough you post bs in here all day long, now you think you run things? hahahahaha, Its all a conspiracy man. Larry Merchant is a New Mason. Retard. Keep fighting amongst yourselves in the slow room guys. |
355X6 Bench
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I am sorry you cant read or write Hummer boy. Anyway I never talk to you,you talk to me just like a lovesick bxxth that Iv been broken up with for weeks now.Let it go whore! |
355X6 Bench
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Thats a good assesment Big Bangerz, however I think its close on speed, heart and will will also be factors. |
355X6 Bench
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Jandro I wont underestimate PBF cuz he is slicker then snot on a doorknob, and hitting him is like trying to bring money out of a dream . I just wake up angry. |
JoeLuis
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You add up nazeem richardson to the plate and who knows. I hope Mosley comes out for the kill, If he respects pbf in the early rounds its over, pbf will take it in a decision. which is allright but i'd like to see someone get KOed the F*up! Go Mosley! |
355X6 Bench
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I am with you Joe, I hope Shane comes in to win from jump. If Shane pulls this out then some of the people that think that he cant win will give him love, and the other people left will give credit to the Great Naz Richardson. This is a underated trainer and one of the top three fighters in the world, it Should make for a great night. |
Jandro83
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extremely underrated trainer, i say he shouldve won Trainer of the Year in 2008 and 2009, sure Roach has Manny, BUT just look at what Naseem has done with Hopkins and Mosley at their age? cmon that weighs alot more than Roachs work. |
aldogg2121
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355X6 Bench -- PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE go put a shitload of money down in Vegas on your man Shane Mosley. You claim you "know" what's going to happen, so might as well make some easy money, right? So can you PLEASE go bet everything you have on Shane? PLEASE? I really need to get these odds on Floyd lowered. |
355X6 Bench
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Well the thing of it is hbo has a habit of giving whoever they want the fight, Shane could put him on his ass and hurt him and still loose. And Jandro I agree 100% on what you just said. |
355X6 Bench
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I dont trust hbo or their judges, they want whats best for buisness and that is not always best for the fighters or the betting fans. However I will bet on Mosley, just not enough to change any odds. |
sikwitit78
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hbo's commentary will favor the more marketable fighter but the judges is just a big x factor especialy in last few years ive seen the worse decisions ever ..mayweather vs castillo 1,delahoya vs stern,foreman vs shultz,guzman vs funeka,johnson vs dawson 1..dawson won but no way by as much as judges had it,mc dermott vs fury,shumenov vs campillo .. hbo on many ocasions protest the bad decisions but usually smaller equal promotable fighters..if one has making of a star there comentary sometimes bias |
champion
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shane IS too old... ive said it before and ill say it again... it is past his time |
bolo
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one one hand i think this is going to be a tough fight for floyd. on the other hand i keep thinking everyone thinks mosley is rejuvinated because of the margarito fight. i keep thinking was it rejuvination or was it margarito just being taylor made for mosley. he came at mosley the same way he came at cotto. cotto just could not hurt him he just walked through those punches. mosley was able to hurt him so he couldnt do the same. i just dont know about this one. its gona be a close fight that eather fighter could win or floyd might make this real one sided. just dont know about this fight. cant wait for this one gona be reaaaaaaallllll interesting. |
355X6 Bench
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They also said B-Hop was old when he fought Pav. They said that when Shane fought Tony. They said that Cambell fought Diaz, that argument is simply not enough for todays modern athlete. If either man wins, its cuz of a skill set, and styles. |
Blueprintmint100
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I will explain for all to understand what the definiton of a motive is. The day Pacman thrashed Hatton, Floyd had a press conference anouncing his return which was tactical. After the Pacquiao fight Mosely calls Manny out for a match a few days later. Freddie turns that down immediately. So who else can Moseley fight for good money at this stage of his career? A first meeting with mayweather is surely better pay than a reamtch with cotto but its not that simple. So of course moseley jumps in the ring after mayweather's fight with JMM. Free publicity . It's old school but its exciting so im for it but he did disrespect fm. Good thing for boxing, fighters get disrespected until they earn it. This is the only reason mosely wants mayweather . CASH Unfortunateley he will lose to mayweather and the public will be surprised how easy it will be. HOLLA |
355X6 Bench
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Thats a nice argument but when Shane hits him, everyone will see how vunrable Flo will be. |
bolo
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i dont think the old thing can be used as an excuse. mosley is in great shape and hasnt. shown any age. he is not #3 pound for pound in the world for nothing. i dont care if your 100 years old. if your ranked #3 in the world pound for pound its because your doing something right. he has taken care of his body as did hopkins. he lost matches because he lost matches not because he was old so that cant be used as an excuse if he looses. you have to ask yourself who in the welt devision can beat mosley. manny and floyd. thats it. no one else. so he is still a great fighter i just wonder if this is gona be the great fight we all think its gona be or another margarito kind of case. he beats cotto so he is unstoppable then the next fight he fights someone he is tailor made for and gets destroyed. i dont think it will be i hope thats not the case. i hope this is a great tough fight. |
bolo
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looks like mosley could make up to 20 million for this fight. floyd looks to be making 40 mill. looks like mosley makes out real good this fight financially anyway floyd too. if mosley can win this fight could make even more the next fight then if he wins again fight manny and could make 30 or more that fight. if mosley handles his buissness he could make close to 100 mill this year. would be a real nice year for him b4 retirement. |
Jandro83
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Bolo you actually think Manny can beat Mosley??? theres a reason Roach and Manny dont want a piece of Mosley and its because there is no way in hell Manny can beat Mosley, and theres no $ excuse cause they were willing to fight Foreman, you see the trick to beat Manny is to go into an all out slugfest or be EXTREMELY tactical, so in the tactical part Manny CAN NOT win a decision over PBF and in the slugfest much less beat Mosley, if u risk it against Manny he is going to come at you, but you see Mayorga in the best contidion of his life and weighin a lean 175, couldnt dent Mosley so there is NO WAY IN HELL ANYONE CAN KO Mosley @ 147, and if Mosley/Pac happens it will be an all out brawl in which Mosley would destroy and KO the Pacman. |
355X6 Bench
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Thats right Jandro, it would take superman to Knock out Mosley @147. He has damn good whiskers.And him and Manny fighting each other would be almost too much action for PPV Tv. But im still dreaming of that fight,For Real. |
dot
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For the sake of entertainment we all say Shane can win because we naturally root for the underdog. It is a shame that we can see the inferior, but we can't appreciate greatness. Floyd Mayweather is great and one of the best boxer the sport will ever see. We do it with Kobe Bryant in the NBA too. Appreciate the real; Floyd will pick this guy apart and then you guys will still hate. Enjoy greatness while you can. |
boxoracle
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These boxing blogs show how some people are so full of s**t about what they think they know. The bottom line is FMJ is very good but not necessarily respected bc he hasn't been tested. Maybe he ducked guys maybe he didn't. None of us know all the innerworkings of boxing bc we weren't involved so it's ignorant to try and argue about that. Shane is very good and respected bc he has fought the right fights, sought them out, and his body of work speaks for itself. A couple of you guys were exactly right about styles make fights and hopefully the novices will pick up on that. This will be a good fight bc they are both very good and either guy is 100% capable of beating the other. FMJ needs more challenging fights to have his name mentioned as one of the greats which is about being very good but also about getting tested or at least seeking out the best, and pushing through adversity bc that my friends gets respect. Having a "0" in the loss column has less to do with it than anything. Don't believe for one second that FMJ doesn't know this regardless of what he says. Who knows if he's afraid of anyone but I seriously doubt it. I think he has just focused on hyping himself and his fights and getting in guys' heads (like Ali but Ali fought the toughest fights and sought them out) for income sake. He has recently begun to see that to truly be considered great he needs to actually fight guys like Shane, Pac, Cotto, Paul Williams, Berto, Devon Alexander, etc. (or maybe move up and fight the best there). Pac should fight these guys too but the difference is he doesn't need these fights to be considered one of the greats. He already has accomplished this by being very skilled, reigning in 7 weight classes, seeking out challenges, showing heart. As for the Pac vs. FMJ fight, it should've happened and the drug testing request by FMJ was unfortunate. This isn't an argument agreeing/disagreeing on whether peds are involved (although I don't think they are), it's an argument to say it shouldn't have come up. The only thing it proved was that FMJ believes Pac could beat him with the assistance of peds. This is a point that has been missed by all the media. Maybe he thinks Pac could beat him regardless of peds but that's a pointless argument bc we don't know. Either way, the fight should happen and if it doesn't it hurts FMJ and fans more than anyone. As for Pac, regardless of what anti-Pac fans say, his greatness and legacy are already cemented. Seven weight classes, challenging wins, tested or seeking to be tested, and wanting to fight top guys. |
wesley
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It's no wonder MMA is white hot. I'm yawning just reading these comments about a contest that isn't really even a fight (unless you count pillow fights, as boxing is known in the fight world). Mosely?! WTF?! Sure, boxers can still compete at age 39 but the impact of Shane's age alone is enough to get Mouthrunner the win. Floyd complains that people will say Mosely was too old when he beats him---no $h!t, Sherlock, 'cause he is. If Floyd were really a fighter and half as confident as he tells himself (and anyone else who will listen), he'd be interested in making a real name for himself by getting himself into a real fight; instead of being known as a guy who held a boxing title with a cloud on it. He IS the one who said he'd beat anyone in MMA so I'd love to see him try to back that up vs. Jose Aldo or any of several others. Unlikely as he won’t even fight Pacquiao. Why I don’t know because ostensibly, Pacquiao lost to Marquez an extremely overrate boxer who was, of course, wrecked by Mouthrunner even while his nuts were being licked by the judges (who scored even the 1st round for Mouthrunner even though neither fighter (heh) barely laid a big puffy glove on the other. So, despite “styles making fights” boxing is about as close to fighting as kissing is to f***ing and if “Pac-Man” could barely handle Marquez, how in the Hell could he hang with Mouthrunner (who, by the way, makes it so the fight” and a track meet are virtually indistinguishable). |
wesley
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AMENDED VERSION http://www.liverpuncher.com/articles/mayweather-when-i-beat-mosley-they-will-say-hes-too-old.html 4/30/2010 It's no wonder MMA is white hot. I'm yawning just reading these comments about a contest that isn't really even a fight (unless you count pillow fights, as boxing is known in the fight world). Mosely?! WTF?! Sure, boxers can still compete at age 39 but the impact of Shane's age alone is enough to get Mouthrunner the win. Floyd complains that people will say Mosely was too old when he beats him---no $h!t, Sherlock, 'cause he is. If Floyd were really a fighter and half as confident as he tells himself (and anyone else who will listen), he'd be interested in making a real name for himself by getting himself into a real fight; instead of being known as a guy who held a boxing title with a cloud on it. (When has he fought any serious / dangerous competition?) He IS the one who said he'd beat anyone in MMA so I'd love to see him try to back that up vs. Jose Aldo or any of several others. Unlikely, as he won’t even fight Pacquiao. Why I don’t know because ostensibly, Pacquiao lost to Marquez an extremely overrated boxer who was, of course, wrecked by Mouthrunner even while his nuts were being licked by the judges (who scored even the 1st round for Mouthrunner even though neither “fighter” (heh) barely laid a big puffy glove on the other. So, despite “styles making fights” boxing is about as close to fighting as kissing is to f***ing and if “Pac-Man” could barely handle Marquez, how in the Hell could he hang with Mouthrunner (who, by the way, boxes so the fight” and a track meet are virtually indistinguishable). |
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