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toto its not hard to beat someone when he just stand there and lets you punch him without doin anythin. thats what clottey did all 12 rounds. to the point that manny sometimes just stood there so clottey would punch and he still would not. clottey had a few flurrys but most of the match just stood there with his hands up. they should have just had a punchin ball in the match. another roy jones calzaquie match. |
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| i dont know what happened last night, but clearly Pac has nothing to do @ 147, Clottey was almost inactive, but the little he did he landed perfectly, and Pacquiao NEVER got through his guard, that copybox was bullshit, Pac was way more active in the Cotto fight and he threw more and landed more against Cotto and all of a sudden copybox doubled those numbers last night? BULLSHIT, and Toto check your eyesight cause as far as i know getting hit on the ELBOWS doesnt count as bodyshots, boxing is about landing CLEAR EFFECTIVE punches, Pacquiaos punches werent as clear and effective as CLotteys, and although Pac won the fight i say rnds 2, 4, 7, and 9 were clearly in favor of Clottey, but he wasnt given any credit, Mayweather is gonna steamroll all over Pacquiao. |
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JoeLuis
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| It was clottey's chance to shine and decided to sit on this one.(trainer/cutman was saying fight! fight N clott was saying no!, no!, HellToThaNo! I dont think we should ask more from pac cus he did what he had to do which is to win. We'll see how May comes out. Im hoping to see mosley beat the heck out of May then have shane vs pac it would be an action packed figh. Not impressed with the undercard. PS. They need new comentators - bang, bang, bang,, c'mon! lol |
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i told you all it would be a blow out. a non match and thats what is was. that match was terrible. all clottey did was stand there and let manny hit him. to the point you wonder if he was paid not to fight back. the few times he did he actually landed then would just stand there for no reason once more. manny matches up with floyd or mosley he is a done deal and thats why it wont happen. expect abrum to have manny/antonio m. to be all set up and contracts done b4 may 1st. |
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I didnt spend money on this, but I will buy the Shane vs. May fight cuz it will be worth the money.If the Blobfather puts Tony and Pac in the same ring I wont buy that either. |
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clottey was scared to death to open up cause he knew pac had planned to catch him in exchange ..he admited he was overwhelmed by pacs speed and feared the power..............clottey can deal with one or the other but couldnt do shit with both |
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| UK had it on sky sports, no PPV fee required, which was about value for money!!!! Pac totally steam rolled him but does the drug testing issue get solved tho to set up a mayweather fight?? Lets hope Mosley beats Mayweather! a Mosley win over Mayweather on May 1st would be an excellent result for the sport for a number of reasons and could only benefit boxing fans Pretty boy Floyd gettin an ass whuppin and put in his place by Sugar shane would be just too sweet for words and would set up Mosley vs Pacquiao instantly! Sugar wont make a fuss over blood testing considering his own background. As a result we have the humbling of Mayweather followed by Pac vs Sugar dream match and if my dream outcome is realised then ofcourse we have a Mayweather return with a more attack minded approach to reclaim his pound for pound status, we can only dream!! |
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badintentions
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| ok even if that is the case its the same impressive level of performance that he produced over his last handful of fights, did Cotto who doesn't need a Bob Arum backhander throw the fight, fuckin sure he didn't but he still got schooled and beaten beyond bad!! Hatton nearly got permanently ko'd and in the few instances were clottey opened up his shell defence he actually looked way more vulnerable and susceptible, does Mayweather beat him? |
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| ok ok I agree with Gun Ru,Bolo,Homer,Jandro,etc - Clottey should have won hands down (pun intended)These crazy people are in dreamland - saying the same things before a Pacman fight, then making the same excuses after their prediction (or wish)fall apart. Eat your heart out guys, and watch that blood pressure... relax-the Pacman will definitely fall someday (as you desire)because he can't live to be a hundred, then your wish will come true. In the meanwhile he will keep on banging bang! bang! bang!all the guys who will come his way, Gayweather included, and you can make all the predictions as you like - that is, if you havent got tired doing it yet. LOL! |
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two words for you all. REMATCH CLAUSE. if mosley wins he must match up with floyd imidietly. basically they do it once more 4 months later so if mosley wins still no mosley pacman. if floyd wins still no mosley pacman. manny went with cotto instead of mosley for a reason. clottey was affective when he let his hands fly mosley wont just stand there and let himself be hit the entire match. manny antonio set up b4 may 1st i promise you. didn f.b.i raid abrums offices tryin to find evidance of fixin matches? not implyin anythin just askin question. |
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dont think pac was on the roids this time. lost weiht b4 match. had wide waist and belly ala marquez when he matched up with floyd. was not as cut as usuall. maybe he will do blood test for 50/50 split. all we need is abrum to die in few months so this deal is done. |
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alex all i said was what would happen with match and why he should have never matched up with clottey and what we saw yesterday free streamin of couse proved it to be true. time to stop battlin loosers of top matches. set up to best mosley floyd pw. next to be antonio. another looser of a title match. always matchin up with looser of title match not the winner. only champ i know to do that time andtime and time and time |
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ok Jandro83 i don't what boxing u were watching coz clearly clottey didn't win a single round u idiot. sure he snuck a few uppercuts but pacman always came back w/ a flurry of punches. u didn't see the clean body shots he did on clttey? bring on mayweather n mosley coz' i wanna see em' all fall. stop hatin' on pacman n accept that he is the best fighter in history. |
Jandro83
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| ehhh wait, when the fuck did Pacquiao steamroll over Clottey?? Pac couldnt penetrate Joshuas defense and he sure as hell didnt land clear shots, go look at the pics of the fight and compare both faces then you will see who got hit harder, Pac won just by throwing an exagerated amount of punches and Joshua didnt answer, if Pac truely "steam rolled" over Joshua the fight wouldve been stopped cause of Clotteys innactivness dont you think? i just saw a planned fight, but Clottey did expose A LOT of weakness from Pacquiao and i saw it clearly, if you guys didnt notice anything, im sure you will when PBF KOs the FUCK out of Manny. |
Jandro83
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| best fighter in history???? DLH rehydrating penalty on contract, Cotto 145 bullshit catchweight PLUS rehydrating penalty on contract, Clottey fight 147 NO restriccions, so now we got a true WW at full potential, where was that fabulous KO everyone predicted???? i didnt see Manny break Clotteys guard, i didnt see Clottey getting tired in the later rounds or breaking down from those alleged "clear body shots" everyone claims to have happened, all i saw was a virtually innactive Clottey who the very few instances he exchanged with Manny it seemed to me he had the strength and REACH advantage, Manny could barely reach him in those trades, and well just look at Mannys face at the end of the fight, but yet not a single dent on Clotteys face, people Manny won but face it he wasnt impressive, all he showed was frustration because he was unable to break down a true ww or did you not see that scissor punch he threw out of desperation??? if he was frustrated by Joshs defense theres no telling how he'll break himself down mentally when he faces Mayweather, guys just accept reality Manny cant beat PBF or Mosley. |
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STILL PACMAN PROVES HOW A P4P KING FIGHT. |
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ALL STEROID ISSUES WERE WASHED AWAY BY THE 51,000 FANS AT THE STADIUM AND THE MILLIONS ACROSS THE GLOBE WHO WATCH THE P4P KING'S PERFORMANCE. |
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ndestrukt you show your stupidity everytime you open your mouth. 50,000 people? not hard to do when your selling tickets at 35 dollers a pop. and pacman didnt show anything not hard to look good when someone just stands there and does nothing.there is a reason clottey was a 7 to 1 underdog. pacman next apponent margarito who stands there and lets you hit him all night. manny needs to start fighting the winners of big fights and not the loosers first champion in history that fights the loosers of big fights and not the winners. keep riding those roid balls ndestrukt |
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ndestruck the only idiot who thought that fight was a great fight. at least the people at the venue only had to pay 35 dollers to watch. and millions watched around the world because it was free and most said they where glad they did not pay to watch that fight. no one is paying to watch that guy anymore especially if he keeps fighting the loosers of big fights. margarito are you kidding me after what mosley did to him? wow. |
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There is no way that Pac is the best in the world.Shane and Floyd are fighting for that title.This guy is fast,but Money or Sugar beat his ass with ease. |
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| im no big pac fan cause ive lost to many times betting against him..but after losing so many times ive learned not to bet against him .this guys work ethic and dedication is phenominal i think he gives mosley.and mayweather the fight of there life ..granted he doesnt make them dehydrate and allows them to come in healthy on fight night i find it funny how clottey refused unofficial weigh in...prob had a restriction of fight day weight |
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Look Pac is good, but if he gets in the ring with Sugar he wont outman him cuz Sugar's best performances come when a guy is too agressive and comes forward. He might be able to take Josh's punches but Shanes punches really hurt. The other thing is when you see a guy throw alot of punches fight after fight and then he fights somone who can hit he dont throw as many and then people say "What Happend?" It is because he is less inclined to throw like that when the other guy hurts him in the exchanges, that is what will happen vs. Shane Mosley. Stick around guys and youll see it happ[en first hand. |
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All fighters have a certain amount of hype behind them,some deserved and some not. It turns into a bubble and then it pops. When it pops then the truth is visible. Pac's hype bubble is about to go pop,and when it does we will know what he really is but until then we can only look and wait. |
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| Look fellas clottey came to survive he was too worried about proving roach wrong on his ko prediction.i havent seen pacs face take any kind of beating since my boy marquez lets not forget marquez has been the only man who has done anything to pac man in a long time but the punches of clottey did land and did do damage to pac but clottey was too chicken to open up he didnt come to win look bfans we forget that clottey doesnt have the biggest heart in boxing look what happen wen he fought baldomir margacheato and cotto he had the chance to win but he didnt then he cries foul but he doesnt make an affort to win lets face it he has tons of skills but no heart so lets give the fighters who do have a warrior heart the credit they deserve.. but i will give my right nut that pacman cannot beat cause we all know sugar cannot beat mayweather even with all his holding sugar does |
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i just dont understand why clottey would be catchin manny then stop for no reason. but whatever manny can not claim himself to be the best untill he faces the best in welt that is floyd and mosley. even if he drops to 140 and matches up with bradley but he needs to stop matchin up with loosers of matches. next suppose to be antonio at dallas stadium. he was destroyed by mosley makes no sense. abrum will kill mannys carear.he will have to sell 5 doller tickets at stadium this time. |
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only stupid/idiot will believe that pac is on steds! the fan prove it at texas.... 51,000! |
JoeLuis
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| No other match makes sense. All to do now is to wait for oponent on May Vs Shane and see who's the real p4p no.1 king is. We'll know this year for sure!. some of you guys are saying that pac will get destroyed cus of the way he fought vs clottey. He did fought stupid but he didnt need no defense vs this guy. i think we learned more of his flaws when we saw him vs cotto. i hope this is some catch to make mayweather feel more confident and hopefully he'll sign that paper. Assuming he beats Shane. btw that's a true ppv fight there!im hoping to finally see a good undercard. |
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| I agree with you NDESTRUKT - The stupidest is Jandro and 2nd is Bolo, the third is a toss up between those without brains or blind. BUT THE WISEST IS.....SIKWITIT! I think he has the right attitude for honestly admitting that he lost a lot of money betting against Pacman. Congrats Sikwitit - I'm sure all the stupid morons out there will soon come to their senses too! Anybody out there want to bet on Mosley, Margarico, Gayweather against Pacman? Bring it on you morons - when will you learn like Sikwitit? |
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alex santillan i guess two people in the world thought that was a great fight. no one else though. once again you dont become great by beating the loosers of big fights. everyone manny has fought in the last two years had just lost a decision or gotten knocked out in a previous fights months earlier. as champ your suppose to fight the winners of thease matches not the loosers. now he is gona fight margarito who got destroyed by mosley. ride those roid balls if you want. |
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anyone can sell 50,000 tickets if they are 35 dollers a peace. mosley floyd only had 17000 capacity but due to price of there tickets being so much more they will actually make more off the gate sales then manny cottey did. |
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| First of all you so-called boxing fans know nothing or you would know that a Mosely win will setup NOTHING except another Mosely/Floyd battle. There is a rematch clause for Floyd. Second, Manny is pushed into having to take a test to fight Floyd simply because Shane took one. Why should Floyd back down now, when he just scored a better fight than Pac by standing his ground. There is no one left for Pac to fight. Retire buddy. Retire before everything comes unraveled as fast as Tiger Woods can say hooker. |
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| BTW, notice how you never heard the word retire out of Manny's camp until that Floyd fight fell through. Now who is never going to fight who here? Floyd ain't talking no retire. He speaks of retirement because he knows tides are changing and he will get caught unless he learns how to handle the weight without the use of HGH. |
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unless mosley wins manny should retire and focus on his political career him and mayweather will never agree and hes acomplished everything and some in boxing and hes maxed out at WW hes weighed in at 145 for all his WW fights and at 5'6" cant imagine would have elite success at jrMW like him or not hes set the bar for future fighters..not a big fan of his catch weight restrictions but no one forced his oponents to agree...but hes been great for the sport comes to fight and entertain the sport needs more fighters like him /mosley/cotto/devon/bradley |
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Sorry Victor, but Floyd is gonna get beat by Shane. The only way he wins is gift wrapped desition by HBO also known as Home Boys Only. Shane is a all time Great and you will soon see why. |
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| bro its imposible that shane wins oscar had the best shot to take moneys 0 shane will never win you'll see but thats wishfull thinking on your part bench. pacman loses too money then pac goes back down in weight to settle business with marquez they make it another classic war us real boxing fans could enjoy |
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Styles make fights, and I know there are no slam dunks in boxing, but I see Shane as stronger,faster,and dont fade like Oscar. Better chin too. I dont think Floyd can hurt Shane at all. You got to remember Floyd sayin he was gonna ko Oscar and barely got away with his o. Shane is soo angry and hungry right now. His divorce, no respect,and Floyd overlooking him to a certain degree. I think Shanes got this one, but well see. |
Jandro83
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| THANK YOU Victor76, i knew i wasnt the only one who saw Manny's faced battered by Clottey, like i said in my post Manny won just cause Clottey didnt throw punches, but from the aspect of landing CLEAR EFFECTIVE punches, anyone who knows boxing knows Clottey had the clear advantage there, if Clottey wouldve had the balls to be more active he wouldve won with is as it was pretty clear Manny wasnt near hurting him. |
victor76
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| check it out bench i hope sugar wins dont get me wrong but man its an up hill chore to beat money money is just to fast and and has that old school def like lights out toney.but your right bench money doesnt have the power to ko sugar but their is a chance for sugar but in my eyes i just cant see it.jandro pacman won a fight were the guy came to survive like i said in my post but no matter how much i hate money his the only chance to stop pacman in his tracks right now cuz he wont fight marquez or margacheato but well see |
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| Clottey had a better chance of getting KO'd if he had loosen up, that's why he didnt throw enough punches and the only reason that he landed such high percentage was because pac allowed it. he stood infront of him. Cotto did really battered pacman's face up. clottey only messed up his eye. the truth is that eventhough pacman aint saying it, he's def feeling them true welter punches. One thing we all agree is that Clottey wouldve accomplished much more if he would've gone for it. he might've even gotten a lucky punch, we'll never know. |
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steroids? all you fools are crazy, i'll tell u the secret to his power. ( pinakbet, adobo, sinigang, balut, tapsilog, garlic rice, bagoong, igado, dinuguan, burger yum ) |
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51000 and millions around the world! even if its cheap, the fans would like it too see... no steroid issue around... it has all washed up.. i appreciate clottey for having the BALLS to fight pacman. |
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clottey fought the same way he has always fought but threw less than usual cause pac was throwing 100 punches a rd pac did what he had to do...no one has ever dominated clottey the way pac did and prob no one ever will ..the only way to dominate clottey was by high volume punchin thats how margocheato did it in the later rounds against him..cant understand why pac gettin crap for fighting guy who most people avoided and lets be real who has ever looked good against clottey ..(nobody) and yeah he got hit cause he was pressing the action trying to fight and make some action for fans which he didnt have to do but he fights for his fans and people he carrys a country on his shoulders...so he got hit what do you expect from a warrior ..in the words of run dmc (the turn tables may wobble but they dont fall down) |
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best fight possible is pac vs mosley ...warrior vs warrior would live up to hype and some ...doubt mosley vs mayweather will live upto hype or if ever happens pac vs mayweather they would both be a game of cat and mouse..(pac and mosley) will be the cats |
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The whole thing is really cool cuz you have the three best in the world and 2010 is so crazy cuz we will really see who is best! Sugar,Money & Pac, no matter who you like these guys are all on the highest level of Professional Sports, and in the same weight!All heading for a crash and mash of epic proportions. This Never happens and I am stoked to the core that this Hailys Comet of boxing is actully beginning on May 1!!! |
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Jandro83
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| sikwitit, thats the thing Cotto looked much better against Clottey, watch the replays in slowmo, Cotto actually broke through Clotteys defense and was about to get a TKO stoppage in 2 ocations if it wasnt because the blood clogged up in his left eye, if you look at the Pac/Clottey fight, Pac NEVER hurt Clottey, hell there wasnt a dent on Clottey, Pac threw 1200 punches (allegedly i still think he was more active vs Cotto and Marquez and he didnt get to 1000) and his landing percentage was around 10%, that mean he only landed 120 punches in 12 rounds, Cotto landed more than that against Clottey, Pacman was NOT impressive at all period, plus he showed alot of weaknesses and oppenings and once again that he is easil hit by counter punchers, he was also frustrated byt Clotteys defense, that shows he will break down mentally when he faces Mayweathers defense and PBF will capitalize, if the fight happens you will see PBF wins by TKO in 8 or less. |
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Floyd would out smart Pac, and Shane will outfight him and out man him. May 1st. is really the pound for pound Championship.Who ever wins that will be the real best, beating Pac later is just a bonus. |
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cotto almost lost to clottey i was there live biteing my nails at decision time and cotto landed cleaner shots cause clottey didnt fight scared in that fight ...its hard to land punches if your oponent is strictly set on defense and survival ...and pac did hurt him twice to the body.if you watch close you will see clottey kick his legs out trying to shake off the pain of body shots and of course your gonna get hit a few times if your throwing 100 punches a round .if your hands are moving there not by your face.....( a 100% cotto prior to being robbed of his prime by margocheato i feels beats them all ( also at compfortable weight not drained and allowed to hydrate unlike the way he fought pac not allowed to rehydrate..pac is great should have let cotto and clottey rehydrate as much as they wanted so he def loses some points for that ..but atleast not fighting blown up lightweights and makin a ppv out of a super mismatch |
JoeLuis
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| The corner made a huge difference in this fight, I saw pac following on roach's commands and saw clottey say No No No! as if he didnt have a corner and in reality he didnt cus he didnt respect his coach. Pacman is like the circus freak that everybody wants to see. (and we'll ppv for it) i think we should still give credit for facing each and everyone of them. As of rightnow he's beaten all of the loosers, lets see how he does with the winners. |
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| You all sound like boxing "experts". Has anyone among you climb a ring in a real boxing bout? Listen to one who just had.... CLOTTEY: PACMAN WILL CRUSH MAYWEATHER! Anybody want to add to that? Now lets hear it from the fake real "experts" out there. Bet some of you havent even touched a boxing glove at all...LOL |
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alex santillan give me a break we should listen to clottey who has been riding mannys balls for the last 2 months and when he gets in the ring just covers up and does nothing once in a while decides to throw punches lands most of them and for no reason stops punching. floyd and mosley would both eat that boy alive thats why he will not fight eather one of them. and like i said not hard to sell that many tickets when they are 30 dollers a peace. you have to pay more to get into six flags. even with the discount pass. |
victor76
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| Hey alex calm down were just boxing fans we love our boxing just like every other sport out there were just dissecting our sport. maybe were not experts but were giving our opinions on the sport we love and if u dont like it maybe u should go to another sight its boxing talk maybe were not right but we give our opinions right or wrong.man i love talking about boxing it gets my blood flowing respect other peoples opinions and talk boxing and make more sence than your doing now. pac destroys money i know u dont really believe that right mister boxing expert u should change ur name to boxing expert lol |
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For the record alwhatever, I sparred the number three ameture in the united states for three rounds and did very well for 2 out of the three rounds,(until I got tired) and I know the sport inside and out and I have been invoved in some way for 30 years! But I still wont lift myself above any one else cuz even the least of these can end up being the greatest.There is room for all of us, and even the little guys deserve respect. |
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pac//floyd//mosley ..mix them up in any matchup its a toss up any fighter can win on any night |
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Tru-dat Sik. |
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but the most exciting match would be pac vs mosley two guys who come to fight and press the action warriors to the core who dare to be great and are willing to take risk to achieve it |
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mosley has fought damn near every elite fighter in the last 15 years...and pac has not ducked any challenge gotta give these guys credit for the risk they have been willing to take and the action they provide to the sport......now to back to my sexy girlfriend shes grillin me wooohooo nyc at nocturnelle beauty fashion show free drinks and food all night damn there some good benifits to having a girlfriend whos a model |
Jandro83
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| alex, ive been in real boxing bouts, and yes i know how its like to be in the ring fighting in front of people as an amateur, and no matter what Clottey says, Pacquiao wont beat PBF, if you know boxing to its core and roots, all the basics and tactics, go watch the Clottey/Pac fight again, and you will see all the flaws Manny has that a person like PBF will exploit throughout the fight. |
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abrum already said that all is bein set for manny to match up with antonio in november. so he wont be matchin up with floyd.if floyd is able to win. he just needs to keep settin up the bettter matches. show that he is top moneymaker and draw in the sport and have more top contenders that are not commin off loses say ok to the testin. new york is lookin close at may 1st. they are thinkin of emplementin the testin. looks like the ball has started to roll. better retire real soon. |
alex santillan
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| Hey Victor - did I claim I am an expeeret? I just repeated what Clottey said. Alas, some people just wont listen to what an experienced fighter (Clottey) say because they believe they are the real experts. But I kinda like what Sikwit has to say (after losing a lot of money betting against Pacman):"even the least can become the greatest, and even the little guys deserve respect".He further says that its going to be a toss up between Pac, Floyd and Mosley..now isnt that a more honest and objective thinking about this? Poor Bolo and company - they have predicted a Pacman loss since when and I bet they also have lost a lot of money, only thing is that they wont admit it. Losers! |
victor76
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| now i see y your not an expert alex. cus if u were then u would of said pacman did lose he lost to marquez possibly twice but its funny how no one brings that up its all what pacman has done and bla bla bla but we soon forget he got his ass handed to him by marquez and left the divison to avoid him this message goes out to all u pacman fans |
alex santillan
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| Yes, I am not an expert, as I have said. I just repeat what I see and hear at face value. I saw Pacman lose to Marquez once and I saw him win against Marquez twice; I saw him lose to Morales once and I then I saw him win against Morales twice. I saw the family of Barrera hysterically crying and I saw his corner mercifully throwing in the towel, I saw the battered pretty face of De la Hoya,saw Diaz and Hatton crumble on the canvass like overstuffed toys and I pitied the wife and son of Cotto as they left the ring. Now I read what Clottey said: "PACMAN WILL CRUSH MAYWEATHER!".These are facts, people... anybody want to dispute, revise, amend, edit, etc, etc any of that? C'mon guys, make up your own story... and, oh, by the way - his concert in Hawaii was a no-concert. Proves to all he aint no superman(he's gonna lose in the elections too-FYI)...definitely, after Floyd, Pac's not going to live a hundred!In the meanwhile, do what Sikwitit will do - stop betting against Pacman and save your precious dollars! |
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im sorry but you cant call clottey an expert. that was not fighting that he did in that ring. not to mention he has lost every single big fight he has been in. so he must not know that much not to mention he has been kissin mannys tail for months now even when the pacman camp was talking junk about him. |
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out of the elite 3 mosley is the most courageous warrior ..unlike floyd no cherry pickin on lower weight classes ..and unlike paquiao not getting advantages at the scales no drained catchweights to bad none of these guys would fight him 5 yrs ago..oh and cant forget cotto another true warrior |
alex santillan
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| Thanks for the response... I can see that Bri knew more of what happened in the ring than the fighter himself... probably knows more how to lay an egg than the chicken itself. And I again agree with Sikwitit - Cotto is a true BATTERED warrior. (I guess this is where he lost a wad of money). Anymore make-up or make believe stories? |
sikwitit78
said:

| cotto is def not a 100% anymore due to manos de plaster margocheato..but a 100% cotto who was allowed to actually weigh in at a true WW .against pac would have been a exciting fight prob still would have lost but would have been action filled fight ..like i said before mayweather cherrypicking ducker and pac is champion of catchweights( drains his oponents and does not allow them to rehydrate like he did cotto,clottey,delahoya) you know how much gets takin outta you to starve yourself to make weight then not be allowed to even gain water weight back....seems like now most fights are won at the bargaining table..why fighters like mosley,martinez,devon,bradley deserve so much credit.bradley gettin ready to have a fight at WW and not a catch weight at FULL WW .not makin 135 guy move up to fight him..also valero moving to 140 no catch weight...and none of these guys made small guys move up |
bolo
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sickwit you make no sences so your saying delahoya was not water drained b4 he fought manny? guy was on ivys b4 the fight he was so dehidrated. secound didnt cotto duck mosley and fight cotto instead someone that had gotten destroyed by margarito. not to mention b4 cottey fight every other welt he fought was at a catch weight. when is manny gona fight someone coming off a win anyway its been a couple of years. |
bolo
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i retract my previouse statement i didnt read what sick said in its entirety the first time. one thing though only people floyd didnt fight are signed to abrum and abrum has daid many times he doesnt want floyd fighting his fighters. mosley refused to fight floyd twice so cant count that one. abrum stopped negotiations for cotto mayweather. abrum is just an ass and not easy to negotiate with. i think he does it on perpose though so he has an excuse to put his fighters against each other and make all the money |
bri
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santilan or what ever your name is get off mannys nuts. only thing clottey new is the extra money thay would be in his account if he didnt fight back. he knows so much. thats why hbo droppe him from there lineup. guy that can bairly make welt weight and you all want to talk about picking on small guys. guy who has lost every fight against all the a level fighters in the welt devision. guy who stood there and did nothing for an entire fight in a championship bout. i wouldnt be surprised if he sucked manny off br the fight. |
victor76
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| Alex Im sorry to say but on top of you not being an expert youre also not a boxing fan...cuz if you were you would know that Marquez fought Pacquiao only twice (not three times) and if you did see him lose just one fight then you need to punch out and find yourself another sport...word of advice...if youre going to throw your opinions out there, please, please, make sure you know what youre talking about first |
alex santillan
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bolo
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alex not hard to win with pacman when all he keeps fighting is people coming off losses. 1> water drained delahoya 2. hatton who had just been knocked out by floyd 3. cotto who just had one of the worst beatings in boxing history vs margartio. 4. clottey who had just lost to cotto.a figher he had just destroyed. 5. and next suppose to be margartio who got his tailed handed to him by mosley. he is the only title holder i know that always fights the looser of matches not the winner. it doesnt even have to be mosley or floyd go down to 140 and fight bradley |
victor76
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alex santillan
said:

| VICTOR, BOLO: I GIVE UP GUYS - I AM A NOBODY IN BOXING SO I JUST COPIED THIS ARTICLE FROM A SPORTS MAGAZINE. KNOW THESE FIGHTERS? I BET YOU ARE MORE "EXPERT" THAN THEM - I SALUTE YOU! Michael Moorer, a former heavyweight champion, was simply awed by the tremendous work rate exhibited by the Pacman in the fight. Moorer, who also had a turn as an assistant trainer for one ofPacquiao ’s recent bouts, said the fact that he threw over 1,200 punches in 12 rounds was simply phenomenal. He added that only a fighter who trains and prepares himself like no one else could be capable pf such a feat andPacquiao is just such a fighter. Meanwhile, current IBA Heavyweight champion James “Lights Out” Toney stated that Pacquiao is simply “on fire”. He added that nobody would be willing to mess around with the Pacman now that he is on such a high level. Like Moorer, he believes the WBO Welterweight champions volume punching, work rate, and unpredictable angles will be too much for anybody. |
bolo
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not make it worst he might fight valero at 147 pounds valero has never fought past 135 pounds he would have to come up 12 pounds. did floyd get critisized for doing the same thing with marquez? but since its manny he can do whatever he wants without anyone saying anything. |
bolo
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why not fight bradley or berto or even mosley if he looses to floyd or even khan but please no more loosers of big fights 5 is tooooo many in a row. or pw just someone on the upswing. |
sikwitit78
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victor76
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| look alex u finally realize what u are a nobody lol look sometimes u need to stop folowing what u hear and go with how u feel about that fighter not everything u read is correct and as far as moore he wants to get a job and get paid by pacman so he is going to kiss ass to get there and as far is for lights out his good friends with roach plus they problably shared the same neddle to get roided up so theires y lights out has so much love for him so alex if theires more letters u want me to clarify for u its my pleasure alex the nobody |
bolo
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alex u need help. first of all moore used to help train pacman he worked with roach he was part of pacmans camp but you probably didnt know that. secound tony. are you kiddin me. mr. on my way to the u.f.c are you for real? wow. |
alex santillan
said:

| I am right all along! You guys know more about boxing than the real fighters! Wow - you guys really amaze me. When the time comes when you will finally make money because of your "expertise", that will be the day! In the meanwhile, continue what you are doing because obviously this is what you good at: SULK, COMPLAIN,GRIPE....LOSERS ALL! LOL HA HA HA HA |
victor76
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alex santillan
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bolo
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how much money did you put up for the clottey match alex clottey was a 7 to 1 under. you have to put up a lot of money on manny to recieve a little if he won.manny was favored to win in the cotto, hatton and clottey match. nothin suprisin happned that match. abrum was the one tryin to convince everyone that it would be a match everyone knew what would happen i was sayin what would happen for months. how come you didnt see it mr expert. |
bolo
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most true experts have said manny has th worst style for floyd. even roach has said manny would have to have the perfect day. make no mistakes. he as a coach would have to have the perfect plan. and manny would have to outthink floyd in the match. match will never happen so no point of talkin about it since manny only welt with issue with blood test. he wont match up with mosley eather.mosley punches back hard he wants no part of that man |
alex santillan
said:

| Dont call me "Mr. Expert", because I never said I am an expert. Yes, you are right - it took a lot to win a little, (and I put in a lot!)which just confirms that most people go for Pacman (but you did'nt see that, moron). I bet you lost a lot (like Sikwitit), Mr. Bolo. And you are so right - no point of talking about a Pacman - Floyd fight because Floyd is such a chicken guy he will look for reasons to avoid the Pac. Go and talk all you can about Floyd-Mosley. Goodbye to you and your moronic gang Mr. Bolo - you're just below the Pac's league - no use talking to you losers! |
bolo
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yea. floyd is so chicken he is takin on the top welt in the world #3 p4p in the world while your boy manny so called best in the world continues to match up with loosers of matches instead of the winners. who's next up antonio that would make five. but its ok since its manny. you probably have 60 tatoos and are afraid of needles as well. f yourself |
bolo
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sikwitit doesnt like floyd but even he is startin to see the bull s**t with manny time for you to wake up alex |
sikwitit78
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| IM A FAN OF THE SPORT I FAVOR NO FIGHTER I JUDGE BY ACOMPLISHMENTS AND FIGHTERS THEY HAVE FACED AND BEAT..IVE ALWAYS SAID PAC IS A EXCITING FIGHTER FOUGHT THE BEST IN HIS DIVISIONS FOR MOST PART ..BUT AFTER GOT PAST 135 HAS HAD WEAKEND OPONENTS AT THE SCALES BUT DOES NOT TAKE AWAY FROM WHAT HE DID WITH BARRERA,MORALES,MARQUEZ,HATTON AS FOR DELAHOYA AND COTTO AND POSS CLOTTEY THE AFTER WEIGH IN RESTICTIONS HE DEF LOSES POINTS......BUT TO MANY OF YOU REF TO ADMIT HOW FLOYD CHERRY PICKED AND BULLIED SMALLER FIGHTERS AND ALWAYS FOUND EXCUSE TO FACE THE TOP WELTER WEIGHTS....IF YOUR A FAN BE A FAN OF THE SPORT DONT GET BLINDED BY FIGHTERS SELF PROCLAIMED GREATNESS ..DONT TELL ME WHAT YOUR RECORD IS TELL ME WHO YOU BEAT |
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i think we should still give credit for facing each and everyone of them. As of rightnow he's beaten all of the loosers, lets see how he does with the winners.





