Friday, 10 February 2012
schlup
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Manny Pacquiao has gone head to head with many Mexican fighters, and can now say he was face to face with “El Gran Campeon Mexicano” Julio Cesar Chavez himself….read on for more…  |
Kudos for #8. Hope it all goes smooth. |
355X6 Bench
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I like how Floyd always plays poor me, just like the time he cryed to the media and retired. If Shane kos him hell probly say "You all wanted me to loose and you finally got your way" wa fcn wa! Crybaby. |
355X6 Bench
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Chavez in his prime would have beaten the steroids out of Mannys ass. |
Homer
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It will be a cold day in Hell before Edwin Valero gets in the ring with Timothy Bradley. |
355X6 Bench
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I agree, I dont think he is ready yet. Hes gonna need another trainer to pull out his full potential. The Man has not showed us a defence to speak of. Th thing we seen in the Demarko fight is guts and hes is tough, but you better be smart if you want to fight Tim, cuz he is one of the best fighters in the world. Top ten for sure. |
sikwitit
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yeah valero needs lots of work just gettin by on natural ability but no fundementals ...95% of fighters now lack the basics the last fundemental fighter i can think of is maybe b-hop hands high ,slips punches, offers head movement , proper stance and keeps proper distance ...also marquez |
mrodrig4
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The 1988 version of JC Chavez would have raped Pacquiao! Although Pacquiao would have probably lead in the cards during the first 6-7 rounds because of his speed, Chavez would have found a way to break him down eventually! |
sikwitit78
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duran whoops both of them |
355X6 Bench
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I dont think so Sik, Duran beats Chavez @ lightweight but Chavez @ 140 was a Robot and I think cleans him up. You have to remember Chavez won more fights and had a higher ko%, he is over all a more consistent fighter. Chavez 106-6-86 Duran 104-16-69. |
sikwitit
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yeah but like 25+ of chavez oponents were tomatoe cans i have to say duran would win chavez was never the boxer duran was duran was a agresive fighter but many people forget how good he could box cause of it chavez was just a agresive fighter could never really switch gears and box if needed duran also later in twilight of career took title ...duran would have never loss to a delahoya chavez great but as all time def ranked below duran |
sikwitit
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got to remember duran has win over sugar ray leonard ..didnt chavez lose to leonard ..and as for the no mas leonard admits he waited till duran got lazy and fat with money to do rematch made sure was not fighting a 100% duran |
355X6 Bench
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Sik there are very few tomato cans in mexico,the american medea said shit like that all the time,because they dont know who they are doesnt mean they are not tough. Mexican society raises gangsters that are so hard, my cousins friend got killed in tj just because he looked like some one else. Its dirt poor and guys fight for you just maddoging them, they have almost no ameture program and most of those kids either sell drugs or pull hits for cash.Chavez was 13 years old when he punched a 18 year old pro boxer and knocked him out and that is how he was discovered. This guy fought and beat Julios brother and was making jokes when he offendid Julio and got knocked out. Chavez could do it all, watch the fight with Meldric Taylor he could slip punches, mastered distance,incredable endurance,and he is rated by many experts as #6 geatest fighter of all time including The Boxer Writers Assn. who has Duran #12 And Bert Sugar has him #5 and has Duran #15, look @ 135 Duran was a monster but @ 140 Chavez of 1988 would fight 12 rounds with one of the best fighters in the world and not even get brused. Just watch his fight with Edwin Rosario, Chavez would fight guys and they were never the same.All fighters look like shit when they are older, just look at Durans loss to Hector Camacho. Chavez beat the hell out of him. And Sik Chavez NEVER fought Leonard. |
sikwitit
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lol okay got me on the vs leonard ends up was not real fight was charity exhibition ..but i still have to say duran wins ..at what weight was the first duran vs leonard? i beleive WW i doubt chavez would have beat that duran....and duran was way better boxer he had footwork especialy in early years you cant ever say chavez had footwork head movement ok but footwork no..and have to disagree most polls always have duran higher than chavez espn had duran like #6 and chavez like #25 |
sikwitit
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both great agresive punchers and man did they work the body ..its a boxing fans dream ..id have to pick duran to win but with these guys any one punch could end it..bert sugar has duran #8 greatest boxer ever chavez didnt make top 10 was listed at #17 |
bolo
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floyd is not talking poor me he is just stating facts. he tried to fight mosley twice when mosley was in his prime and mosley said no twice. those are just facts. no respect for pavlic anymore. pw gets sick of his b.s. and all of a sudden infection is gone over night. now he wont give pw a 50/50 split like he has some kind of marketing power. no way he fights winkey or pw. margarito will get his chance to prove himself against manny. but manny really needs to start fighting fighters in the upswing and needs to start fighting top compatition available. floyd mosley berto somebody coming off win tune up fights dont count wont say pw since no welt is gona fight that guy. wonder if margaritos first fight back will b against manny or if he will fight someone prior to that. because floyd manny will never happen and if mosley beats floyd his next fight has to be against floyd due to rematch clause and i dont think manny will fight berto next and abrum love all top rank fights. keeping all money inhouse. abrum is making a killing right now |
sikwitit78
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why on earth would pavlik be scared to fight winkey? i dont like pavlik hes been a little b**ch since hopkins schooled him but i would have to imagine he would be the favorite against a old winkey who has never been known for power |
sikwitit78
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margocheato vs pac would suck i hope arum doesnt do it ..margocheato va sergio martinez would be great so martinez can avenge his only real loss at 154 i say martinez ko's cheato |
dipsta
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QUE VIVA EL TORNADO DE TIJUANA! Y EL QUE NO LE GUSTE QUE NO SE LA COMA!! PINCHI'S MULAS!!! Y ARRIBA EL VERGUILLAS!! |
355X6 Bench
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Look Sik, you saying Chavez couldnt do it all is silly, he was the best fighter in the world for 14 years! He fought 5-6 times a year for 14 years without a loss. The only reason he ever lost was age, his first loss came when he was 34 years old. If your getting your info off google,bing,or yahoo then it is not very accurate at all. I own a very large collection of boxing books and my facts come from there. Chavez at his weight p4p was far stronger and more skilled then Duran. Duran lost in a second round ko to Hearns, and Chavez out of 116 pro fights has been on the canvis 2 times, hes been tkod but never kod.Duran was great at light but was never the same in the higher weights. Chavez peaked at 140, but at 140 he was almost impossible to beat. You need to wach the Meldric taylor fight on dvd in its entirety and not on fussy youtube. This guy used to bounce and box but realised he didnt have to cuz he was so strong he walked most of his opponents down. The fight with Duran and Camacho was not a charity fight, it was real and Hector thumped him.Yeah they were both old.Though |
JoeLuis
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I can't really coment on Duran cus i only know what media wants to show me about him. about chavez, to comment on how he was so confident in his power.. i member, He was so sure of his power that he walked right in front of the 'Mexican assasin' Roger Mayweather and almost ko'ed him with that looping punch. That's guts plus lilcrazy and confidence i guess. |
sikwitit
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saying duran got kod by hearns no big discredit hearns could really bang if hearns fought chavez prob would have done the same to him..and duran after loss still came back and took title when everybody wrote him off ..also chavez was way down on score cards before got controversial stopage with two seconds if meldrick was winning almost every round imagine what leonard would have done...duran gave a prime young fit leonard first loss dont think chavez would have beat prime leonard |
355X6
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No offence Sik, you know the sport very well but not even knowing who he fought or when he fought its kinda too raw of a knowledge base to say anything good or bad about him, you sound like your knowledge is very media based and if you would have wached the fight with Meldric then you would know that Meldric was beaten to a pulp and that is why Rich Steele stopped the fight. I watched his career from the beginning and he was the best 140 pounder i have seen in my life. Just think about any boxer going 90-0. |
sikwitit
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yeah yeah only been able to follow boxing for 20yrs when i was 10 and my moms finaly got cable did not get to see any of the greats live ..know what sucks one of my first live fights i seen on cable was when tyson got ko'd ....i got a few dvds and always watch old fights on classic..never said chavez wasnt great just that duran was better and feel would win if they fought at there prime and dont think chavez could beat leonard im sure there are plenty of people who agree with me as with you ..tell you what we get the time machine from napolian dynamite and make the fight happen ..shoot got a few things i still wanna change in past lol |
355X6 Bench
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Its all good Sik, there are things I would love to change to, aside from the times I said things to hurt somones feelings when i shouldnt have, to fighting all the time for no reason, but to me the biggest struggle for a man is to find where his place in life is. These two men found it in the Ring. |
sikwitit
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yeah people talk about how many people die in boxing but fail to see how many lives it saves..example how many lives might have tyson taken if he didnt find boxing he was way to being career criminal and i have no doubt he would have committed murder had he not found boxing same as arron pryor and so many others |
sikwitit
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hey bench know whats funny i have argued that chavez vs meldrick fight with my friends so many times i say was good stopage they say it wasnt but like you said chavez had crushing power had he landed a clean shot on a defenceless meldrick doubt he would be alive shoot he cant even speak straight now as it is |
JoeLuis
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I've too argued that stoppage with myself at times i see the fight through taylor's eyes and say, it was an injustice cus the dude did got up, but at other times i look at the fight in the referee's perspective and eventhough taylor was winning the fight in rounds because of his speed you can't argue that chavez's punches had taken his toll on taylor's body and on ref's perspective his life was at risk when he couldnt respond. Now the butte Vs andrade 1 non-stoppage... The ref just Effed up! |
Jmc561
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Bench 355, in your strength training to get up to 355 bench, were you using pictures of Floyd as inspiration to get real pissed so you could pump more? Did he have an affair with your mom or something and kick her to the curb? You don't seem to like him much |
Jmc561
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ohhhhh the meldrick-jc debates. My 2 cents in a nut shell, purpose of ref stopping a fight is to prevent one from taking too much punishment. But with 2 seconds left and Chavez all the way across the ring in the neutral corner, how much damage could he have done in the remaining time left? |
355X6 Bench
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Jmc561 I wont even entertain your nonsence other than say that its easy to talk smack on a computer, but its ignorance like that, that gets people hurt in the real world, and that motor mouth of your is gonna get your little ass plowed for you soon enough. Youll learn in a while and in the meantime you can keep smoking weed with your friends getting older sleeping on your moms couch masterbaiting in your bathroom thinking about the girl that thinks you are nothing.Its ok your mom will keep paying the bills while you cant find a job cuz you are underqualified ignorant and youll end up alone. |
355X6 Bench
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oh and i guess JMC stands for Just Masterbait Constantly?Faggot |
Jmc561
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haha jmc, that was pretty good I ain't gonna lie. No need to get personal, I thought you said you weren't even gonna entertain my nonsense, (which you spelled nonsence by the way, sounds like you're all muscle no brain huh?) But then you proceeded to go on into a big rant, bringing this to a whole other level lol, calm down, can't believe you took the effort to go into all that haha. |
Jmc561
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and I am officially exiting this e-fight. I forfeit you win. Go celebrate, pop some bottles or some shit, go paste a picture of Floyd to your dart board and do it real grande my nigga!!! |
355X6 Bench
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This website is for boxing fans, I think you were looking for pbskids.com or nickalodian.com. so go there to find your hero spongebob masterbait in my moms bathroom pants. |
sikwitit78
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YEAH THAT BUTE VS ANDRADE 1 WAS HOMECOOKED TO PERFECTION |
sikwitit78
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HEY BENCH DID THAT GUY JOIN SITE JUST TO ARGUE WITH YOU I NEVER SEEN DUDE HERE BEFORE WOW LOOKS LIKE YOU GOT FANS LOL |
355X6 Bench
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No Sik this guy just showed up to show us all why no one should have sex with their own cousins. Hes not smart enough to be a boxing fan, I think he is angry cuz his girl turned out to be a transvestite, and his mom is about to kick his looser ass out for not paying bills and being a lazy slob, but that is just a guess. Anyhow Bute Lost that first fight with Andrade. |
355X6 Bench
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Now he will drive his toyota off a cliff. Those damn peddles! What a evil world we live in. |
Don Smith
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Editor, The Tapia fight Card in New Mexico is being improvised every other day.The addition of Janks Trotter to the card is a nice touch. Gonzales-Buchanan Title fight on july 8 offers some fresh faces: Arlo "Fists Full of Aces" Argueta and two time Mexican National Champion Jose Gonzalez. The rest of the card will be announced next week. |
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