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Blog by Socalboxer socalboxer - I just read on UFC.com that the Anderson Silva vs Forrest Griffin fight in UFC 101, was “one of the most spectacular striking displays ever seen …”  That is how they described a knockout caused by a jab, and I felt compelled to give a different perspective. 

 

It was the first UFC event I have seen since it was banned in the 1990’s.

 

What I came away with was that boxing fans have much higher expectations from their fights and fighters than the typical MMA fan.

 
 
I was hoping to see a good fight by their “pound for pound” best Anderson Silva.

 

Silva does have a little boxing technique.  He can throw punches in combination and moves his head pretty well.  But that’s where his boxing skills end.  Calling his punches “spectacular” would have Alexis Arguello spinning in his grave.

 

The entire card started out with many lower level fighters in boring fights.  So I waited patiently for the main event.

 

Forrest Griffin was billed as a quality opponent who could make Silva work hard to win a fight.  Griffin was an ex champ and Silva had to move up in weight to face him.

 

At one point in the fight, Griffin lost his balance while attempting to throw a punch and Silva simply reached out to help him to his feet. 

 

Griffin attempted another set of punches and was countered with a jab from Silva which sent Griffin to the ground one more time and he tapped out before he was hit again.  You would think he was hurt pretty bad, but he got up and literally ran back to the locker room before he could be interviewed. 

 

In fact he ran out of the cage so fast you would think he was late for an important meeting somewhere. 

 

None of the announcers complained, and none of the MMA writers described it this way.  I just had to get the truth out there.

 

The bar is high in boxing

I feel the bar is raised exceptionally high in the sport of boxing.  Many people expect to see Rocky Balboa vs. Clubber Lang in every boxing event.  Getting knocked out by a jab then running back to the locker room would be the end of a boxer’s career and fans would clamor for their money back.  Imagine Joshua Clottey running back to the locker room after Miguel Cotto dropped him early in the fight with a jab. 

 

If boxing’s pound for pound greats, Floyd Mayweather or Manny Pacquiao, fought in fights like this, they would have to run out of the ring from the legions of boxing fans wanting to see more action.

 

Victor Ortiz was vilified in his last performance even though he got up off the canvas more than once and knocked down his opponent 2 or 3 times.  If this happened in the UFC, it would have been fight of the year! 

 

Filling the wresting void

One other thing I learned was that the UFC is a league created to fill the void college wrestlers feel once they need to make some money. 

 

Wrestling is a very popular sport in many parts of the country.  And let’s face it, they have very few options to make a name for themselves once they leave college level competition.  The transition to MMA isn’t that hard if you have a wrestling background. 

 

After watching the UFC event I popped in an old school fight between Salvador Sanchez and Azuma Nelson.  Now that was a fight that can truly be described as "one of the most spectacular punching displays ever seen".  
 
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Comments (35) >>

Swodogg said: _

 
The dude was KOd by a Jab and didn't get back up? Sounds pretty sorrry. Thanks for the fyi on the fight this weekend so cal....Your right, I would want my money back. They can't throw a punch correctly.

Olympics is the only other way wrestlers get any due. Doing UFC gets them a way to pay some bills...I give them credit for their skills on the mat but not in their striking abilities....

10 August, 2009

Homer said: _

 
I can't find much fault with what you have said SoCa, and I did catch a replay of the "Main Event". My only defense of MMA would be with the gloves. You will never see a guy "with a good chin" take much with the MMA gloves.
10 August, 2009

355X6 Bench said: _

 
So The MMA guy is a sports whore that whores around with a bunch of diffrent sports and is not worth a damn at any of them, who with his good hand taps the ground when he is either tired or getting his ass kicked? These guys were compairing themselfs to Bruce Lee on a documentary and I about fell off my couch laughing. The only ground Bruce went to was him knocking his oponent to the ground. They have no Olimpic team ,their weights are all fucked up and half these guys have dimal records! & For the record this is not a real artform or sport.This is the sport for beer drinkers ...Floyd is dead on...
10 August, 2009

355X6 Bench said: _

 
MMA = Minimumly Masterd Art. UFC =Undertrained Fighting Champ. hehehehe!
10 August, 2009

barrykil1980 said: _

 
I did`nt see the fight but I know Griffin was fighting well below his natural weight.I think that probably had a lot to do with his lack of punch resistance.
11 August, 2009

layzie guy said: _

 
uuummmm. it was fixed. how does a dude get ko'ed by a lazy jab? and he jumped up and left right away. maybe silva had something in this gloves. maybe dana white gave griffin some extra cash to take a dive. i dont know. but what i do know is that something wasnt right. it wasnt a legit fight. something smells very fishy
11 August, 2009

Gun Ru Hammer said: _

 
Your rigth Bench, Floyd was dead on. The only people I know that watch MMA are borderline rednecks who wants to get drunk and watch white people fight each other. Once the "sport" gets more popular with minorities, they are going to lose their fan base. Unless of coarse MMA just folds before garnering the interest of minorities.
11 August, 2009

355X6 Bench said: _

 
The real point that I am trying to make is that, if a man does all those things how can he be sold out to anything? To Master anything worth while you have to be sold out completly! And waching guys swing wild with no dicipline is not me. Boxing is the real Original American Marshal art that is not dominated by strong men,it is dominated by skilled men.Thank God for Boxing.
11 August, 2009

355X6 Bench said: _

 
As long as we have beer drinking,glory seeking,overweight,over eating, underacheiving,low caliber athletes who cant box, but want to get drunk during training and still compete,well probly always have MMA. It reminds me of the police officers who got bullied in high school and now are cops who tazer 5 year olds and overdo their job for the sake of insecurety,God help us.
11 August, 2009

Bodysnatcher said: _

 
It wasn't just a jab, it was a very well timed counter right hand. I saw the replay on ESPN and that's one of the few times I've been impressed by an MMA fighter. The guy slipped two sloppy punches by Griffin then countered. The punch may have not looked very hard, but you have to understand that Griffin was going forward with all his weight and got caught flush in the chin. In other words, it was a very impressive KO I thought. When Griffin went down you could tell he was done. The difference b/w boxing and MMA is that you get to see the big KO's like this on ESPN and it makes you want to watch more. How many people go to see Manny Paquiao stretch Hatton? Only the ones that paid for the PPV and the ones that took the time to watch the replay a week later.
11 August, 2009

socalboxer said: _

 
thanks for the comments fellas. bodysnatcher, remember silva is a south paw, that right hand was a jab.

all i'm saying is that they will edit the replays and write the articles to make it seem like a bad ass punch.

i saw the whole thing. the fight was a joke. why did he get up and run back to the locker room? they show that in the replay?

if a boxing match ended like that people would be pissed.

i think pacquiao's knockout of hatton was much more impressive. hatton was in no shape to run anywhere after that.
11 August, 2009

dipsta said: _

 
yaaaaaaawn!!! i have to admit that i do enjoy me some mma at times, i wanted to watch these fights, but i went to the casino instead, smilies/grin.gif they actually had the fights there, after watching the 3rd round of the Penn vs. Florian, the only rnd i saw, we decided it was time to go have dinner! it BJ PENN for crying out fkn loud! isnt he the prodigy of the sport or some shit! idk man, but i love winning them conversations at the bars against these fkn gabachos! i live in Oregon, mma is fkn huge here, y me la pelan!! VIVA EL PUGILISMO!
11 August, 2009

355X6 Bench said: _

 
Getting Knocked out by a jab is like a prostitute that forgets to charge! What does a MMA fan say after sobering up? This FUCKING SPORT SUCKS!!!
11 August, 2009

JoeLuis said: _

 
hehe you guys hit it right on the dot. MMA is for chumps! I missed the fight and quite frankly i'd rather blog here that youtube that damn fight. The only fight i'd probably watch is the gina carano one(id hit that!) and even her is a walking propaganda, cus the sport doesnt have much to offer. Lets just not compare boxing to mma. its ridiculous!
11 August, 2009

Bodysnatcher said: _

 
Hate MMA all you want, but the dude did not get knocked out by a jab. Just b/c he threw it with his weak hand does not make it jab. It was a very nice shot in which the opponent was coming in and ran into the shot. Some of you guys act like you've never seen a guy run into a punch before, it happens all of the time in boxing. Katsidis is the master of running into punches. The guy went down, was clearly hurt and with the MMA rules he's lucky the ref stepped in b/c if not that Silva dude would have beaten the living piss out of him.
12 August, 2009

355X6 Bench said: _

 
Well Body, I dont hate the sport.What bothers me is that MMA guys claim their sport is better and then go on documentrys and claim they got it from Bruce lee, and how they have been studying his art for their whole life and struggle mightily to combat a man that has never studied Jeet Kun Do. If they studied Bruce Lees art then they would not loose,look so over weight,throw slow punches ext.Kung Fu was before ju jit ziu and karate,there is no Masters in that sport. I will support boxing cuz there are real masters in every country.
12 August, 2009

355X6 Bench said: _

 
Popular MMA websites include= Care bear .com, Hold Me Hold me.com, and Liverhugger.com
12 August, 2009

JoeLuis said: _

 
Its probably the small ass gloves that they wear. I can see much damage getting done with those gloves. (Imagine Tyson with them MMA gloves?)I dont hate the game but just cant compare it to boxing. I can watch the full twelve rounds of a good boxing match even after i've seen the fight. I would just forward to the KO of an MMA fight after seeing it once. (Gotta admit dude on top of other dude in sexual possitions its kinda wack to watch)
14 August, 2009

geraldmayor said: _

 
UFC? hmmmp...
14 August, 2009

355X6 Bench said: _

 
The smaller gloves should give them a advantage in speed but it doesnt. Most people dont know that Boxing on tv is slowed by 1.5 seconds so youn can see the punches and action,However in the 50-60s fights were not, just look at Alis Phantom punch vs. Liston. Very Interesting indeed......
14 August, 2009

Sierraja81 said: _

 
MMA is a joke compared to boxing. Boxing is a true art and MMA is a wreckless sport with. The gloves DONT make a difference. In the beginning, boxers fought bare knuckle and lasted many rounds. The gloves are mainly to protect your hands. Answer this MMA fighters...How many MMA fighters would last a 12 round beating (Vasquez vs Marquez III) ?? The answer is ZERO!!
14 August, 2009

355X6 Bench said: _

 
I think MMAs apeal is that it is for anyone, anyone can do it with practice, Boxing on the other hand is for the very best,hard working,dedicated, and not all people have the talent,mental stability and toughness for the most dangerous sport in the world.Boxing is the real Bloodsport; but to me it is beautiful and violent and so intreging. Its real art with real masters.Long Live the Sweet Science!
14 August, 2009

Prince1989 said: _

 
Almost all of you people leaving comments (including socalboxer) don't understand mma and that is why you hate it... none of you said anything when james toney got knocked down by a jab from sam peter... forrest was already hurt when he got knocked out...he ran out of the cage because he was upset with himself...its not like he tried to bite anderson's ear off. all of you dont understand a thing about fighting that is why you call it "wreckless"(Sierraja81- if you want to watch a good mma war watch forest griffin vs Stephan bonner 1 ). 355X6 Bench i dont understand what you are talking about, "anyone can do it with practice" of course...that doesnt mean your gonna be good at it...anyone can learn to box, it doesnt mean there gonna be good at it...all u haters should get educated...
and dont tell me anything about how boxing is better...i love them both the same..i just hate wen a bunch of people start talking out of their asses..
16 August, 2009

355X6 Bench said: _

 
Not so fast 19whatever, What we are all refering to is the sloppyness of your sport and lack of real masters, Your saying that only certain people are good enough to do it but all the MMA guys record sucks.So Mr.12-4 MMA guy is good? Boxers with that record have trouble getting air time let alone get called pound 4 pound. This web site is Liver puncher.com ,you dont see us going to huggybear.com and bash your sport we are on a boxing website with boxing fans.........
17 August, 2009

Gun Ru Hammer said: _

 
Prince, your forgetting 1 thing. MMA just sucks. Nothing else needs to be said. Didnt like half the guys on that MMA reality show go on to be champs? Yeah, thats a real competitive "sport."
17 August, 2009

355X6 Bench said: _

 
MMA is WWFs retard cousin,and they are both over hyped beer drinker sports.
17 August, 2009

Prince1989 said: _

 
355X6 Bench , trust me... im an avid boxing fan and dont think im bashing the sport (iv'e been on this site for a long time)...its just that people like Gun Ru Hammer have no idea what they're talking about.
there are plenty of masters in mma...just because someone is 12-4 doesnt mean theyre not a master...there are more disciplines to learn in mma and it is more imposing your style of fighting on to your opponent than being "wreckless" ...one diffrence between mma and boxing is that once people realize how good you are in mma, you immediately step up in competiton... in boxing you have a lot more fights before they step up...in mma, particularly the ufc, you wont go long before you have to fight someone extremely good...(you know how they say styles make fights...in mma it is exaggerated because of how many ways there are to fight, where as in boxing there is a limited amount of ways to box)...that is why people have records like 12-4 instead of 36-2...i also dont agree with mma guys saying things about bruce lee and jeet kun do...since jeet kun do is for self-defense and mma is a sport with rules (that documentary probably sucked)...
You wont see the type of head movement in mma that you see in boxing because it is easier to get taken down that way...but for Socalboxer to say Anderson has little boxing technique is outrageous, in reality...he has an enormous amount of technique as it applies to mma...boxers can stand a certain way without worrying about a kick to the head...as for other mma fighters...a lot of them have terrible boxing skills
I always thought Boxing and mma were two very different, great sports, its just that some ignorant fans (on both sides) try to say one is better than the other without understanding the other sport and thats what i hate...what a lot of people don't realize is that a lot of boxers (george forman, RJJ, iron mike...etc.) respect and watch mma and a lot mma fighters like bj penn and anderson silva love boxing...the reason why anderson wants to box roy is because he grew up watching him and he has nothing but respect for him...(i dont like soccer that much but i'm not saying it sucks, its just not for me)...heres a rjj interview from ufc 101......................
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FN028__l2lc
17 August, 2009

355X6 Bench said: _

 
I do see what you are trying to say about records but what I look at is this fundumental fact: These men cannot call themselvs masters until they either win a world title at Boxing,Jujitzu or wrestling, Now some MMA guys have won at the olimpics at wrestling and deserve to be called masters,but to say they are masters of MMA I dont agree until they actully master every area. To me the sport is too young and will take time to for me to consider because when I see guys with fat hanging over the sides of their trunks and hear the commentator say prime Athlete I feel like throwing up. To me if the sport wants to win more fans then they need to get a Olimpic team and get the damn weights under control. The other thing is skill, there was a guy that was about thrirty years old and went to my gym and called out one of the best guys and he said you need to start out with someone you can handle, he is a MMa fan who is a friend of mine and ended up sparring a 14 year old 2 time JR>Mens national champ and golden gloves, that kid was only 14 years old and weighed 109 lbs. and My friend weighed 167 they sparred for three rounds and after three rounds my friend ended up realizing that this sports is pure skill, we almost stopped it, because he was getting his ass kicked. Now if that would have been MMA the bigger or stronger guy usually wins. Boxing allows for skill to almost always win
17 August, 2009

Gun Ru Hammer said: _

 
I dont know what Im talking about? Your on a boxing site tryin to suck MMA's dick. That shit sucks, take it to another site. Nobody here wants to watch 2 guys roll on the ground with each other for 3 rounds.
18 August, 2009

Prince1989 said: _

 
355X6 Bench, i'm gonna have to respecfully disagree with you...(at least we had a real conversation about the subject)

As for Gun Ru,

“Nothing in the world is more dangerous than a sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.”
Martin Luther King Jr
18 August, 2009

Gun Ru Hammer said: _

 
"Theres nothing less entertaining than MMA"
Gun Ru Hammer
18 August, 2009

355X6 Bench said: _

 
Thats cool Prince, and Hammer that last one was fucking hillarious!
18 August, 2009

JoeLuis said: _

 
Funny shit to all of you. Prince way to go for standing up for your shit. But that aint gona fly at a boxing site cmon u should know that..

Let me throw in my quote too...
Little knows of thy boxing when your avatar is nazeem hamed! hehe.
18 August, 2009

GETURSHITSTR8 said: _

 
Boxers would never last in the ring with an mma fighter...u say they dont have skill?? MMA is Boxing............................kick boxing, jiu jitsu, karate wrestling + more, these are all classified individually as arts, i still like boxing as an art but MMA has combined arts, some of these guys have belts in different arts.....and they have to know more than just dancing boxing and weaving....there is a reason boxing goes 12 rounds......
21 September, 2009

GETURSHITSTR8 said: _

 
Its a new age Mr Wilson.....time to get with the new before u get left behind in the past.....take off your bell bottoms, cut your afro's and stop being obsessed with the past ......weve moved on to a sport which requires more "skills", where artists can be tested from diferent arts....
eat with your chopsticks because i've got a fork!!!!
21 September, 2009
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